
We are Tania and Gaetano, two expats who moved our families to Spain for new adventures. We both moved here from the US, Tania (originally from the UK) in 2020, with her husband and daughter from Northern Virginia, and Gaetano in 2023 with his two daughters from Los Angeles. We all met in Valencia and got along incredibly well, but while we cracked each other up discussing our fun times adjusting to Spain, there were quite a few eye-rolls from our girls (tweens and teenagers anyone!). In an effort to give our daughters a little break we thought what the heck, let’s share our experiences with unsuspecting strangers instead. This podcast came to life and we hope you enjoy the pitfalls and joys of our experiences - we all have!
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Benita a Spain. Hola Tanya. Hola. I love it. That sounded really
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good. I like your Spanish. See, nivo. Natto. Nivo. Niv. How do you say native?
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I'm native. Nivo. Yeah, clearly. How do you say that in Spanish? We don't even have the word for that. No, I do because
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it's it's it's nivo. It is nivo. Yeah. Yes. I think Benita Benita. Did I not
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say Benita? I think you did. Yes. Well, anyway, everyone, welcome to Aspain.
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Hola. Buenos. Hola. Let's keep Let's stick to the simple ones. And we even
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sound bad doing that, so maybe we don't try the more complicated words. Okay, just an idea. Fine. Well, Tanya, I guess
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it's time for you to share in a Spain then. Is that where we're Yes. our our a
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Spain. And it's an a Spain. It is an a Spain. Yes. The We've The spirits were
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shining on us yesterday. Oh my gosh. They so were. So, we we decided to We've
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kind of given up on the tortilla place. Let's just say we've gone there enough times. We're done. We're not done, but
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um that's a different story. Um, we decided again to go and try something else in a different place because we
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wanted to try a cremat coffee drink that we'll explain because today we're going
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to be talking about drinks. So, this is all related and the place was open. The
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place was open. I was so pleasantly surprised and and hopping and hopping
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was it? So, it was awesome. It was It's called Kiosk Laola. Peragola. Peragola.
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I think the accents. Now, let's get back into Spanish, which we know nothing about. The accent on the I decided I can
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pronounce better Spanish if I speak like a Spaniard. So,
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there you go. Yes. Cuz this is how you were talking to the um to the waiter
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yesterday and you just do these kind of manly grunts and he did the manly grunts and somehow we ended up with food on our
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table. So, it worked. Yeah. You thought Ricardo the what was his name? Ricardo Montabon was all around you, didn't you?
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So he his name was Jav I think and yeah he was he was he was very funny. We had very nice waiters there and very
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energetic and the the place had a nice energy to it. But what we went there for was this drink because you had had you'd
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had somebody tell me that tell you that this was the place to go and get the most authentic one and it was it was
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really good. Do you want to explain what the drink is because we can just like roll out of the our Spain straight into
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our episode here. Just to be clear, our opin is we went to a place that we planned to go to and it was opened. So there you go. Yes. Isn't
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that crazy? There's the end of our Spain. So, right. Well, to be to be clear, this doesn't happen to me very
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often. So, it was a very exciting moment for me. Not so exciting for you, but very exciting for me. No, it was
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exciting to me. And um so the cremeette is a coffee drink and it's uh
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traditionally served during alerta but it's like your post aluerza uh beverage.
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Um and it is a shot of espresso and it's a layered coffee which I think was so
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impressive that there's this Yes. It's very it's very pretty and we have we will we have or we will post pictures of
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it. So you'll get to see it. You will get to see it. And so this this they make this kind of syrup out of rum,
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water I want to say, and lots of sugar, cinnamon, uh, lemon zest. I think he says he
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squeezed the lemon in it, too. And then maybe they'll add orange. Some people will add orange zest to it as well. And
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yeah, the orange zest is a little extra if you want to be super fancy, right? Make it a little extra flavor. And then
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they heat this up and then they burn off the alcohol that comes with this. and then becomes a syrup and then they layer
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the shot of espresso on it. And I will have to say when they handed us this cute little glass cup, we almost burnt
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our fingers off cuz I wasn't expecting it to be so hot. And it was like
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Christmas in a glass. It was so good. It was so good. Yeah, it was really, really
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good. And I will say that it's quite a procedure like you just explained. So most sort of a process, a procedure. So
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a procedure to But not for us to make it to make it is like a long it's not going
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to take five minutes to make it. So what they do and what a lot of places will do if they have a proper one is they'll
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have that syrup ready and then they'll heat up the syrup ahead and then put it with the coffee so they don't have to do
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that whole like process of making the syrup every time. So, I think what we need to do next is find a um place that
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like special like that does the whole show because from what I understand there's places you can go and it is a whole it is a whole show for you at the
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at your table I think. Right. I feel like I read that somewhere. Um but she
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he did say that it was more of a a thing in the north of Spain. So, it's here and I heard this from my friend too. Like it
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this is a drink that is more popular in the north of Spain. So, probably you
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might have potentially more luck finding somebody really making it from scratch like in front of you. But I also don't
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know if that's what I don't know if that's being done because you want all those flavors to kind of hang out
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together for a while. Like they had a they had a pot of this that had the cinnamon sticks in it and everything.
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So, it's continuing to add flavor as it sits there. Right. Right. So, I don't know if you'd want it made like
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immediately like that because I don't know if it would be as good. And it was delicious. And then there's two ways to drink it. You can either drink it in the
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layers where you get the the tart espresso first and then you get the whole sugary drink after. But we mixed
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it up, which is what he suggested, into one drink. And it was, like you said, Christmas in a glass. It was so flavorful and delicious. It was it was
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so yummy and and surprisingly felt refreshing, right? Cuz it's it's not like heavy Christmas, but it was it's
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those flavors, but it it felt it was just, you know, alive. It was very nice. And I was like, you know, you take the
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remember I said you take the coffee out, mix it with some soda water, throw an orange slice in it. It's a delicious drink by the pool, you know. Yeah, cuz
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it was a very fl cuz then he gave us the syrup to taste on it on our own, like on its own without the coffee. And it did definitely is something you could put
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with something else. I mean, it was so good. And I feel like we mentioned that he looked at us like we were crazy. Why would you do that? I know. And then and
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then we then he's like I I was like, can you buy just this stuff, you know, so that we could do that at home? And then
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he he said, "Yeah, you could buy this." And he he let us taste this like um sort of bottled um cremeier creme like thing.
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And it was just like artificial flavors and stuff. It was not it was not. You couldn't compare the two at all. No, you could not. Two different things. Um so
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um uh please anyone who's hearing if you're invited to my house for dinner party, don't bring me the pre-made bottle. I don't want it. Make it. Make
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it. Spend the whole day making it and then bring it. And we did get Yeah. And
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we did get in trouble at the be Yeah, we did get in trouble at the beginning cuz we were getting breakfast. So, we got like sandwiches and tortillas and stuff
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and then I was going to order the that the um cremeette as well. He's like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. You eat first
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and then you have that." And I was like, "Well, that makes sense." And then and then he was like, "What what do we want to drink?" And we're like, "Well, we're
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going to have the cremea water." And then he's like, "No, you have beers, too." Like, he wasn't forcing beers on us. And we didn't have the beer. I was
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like, "I don't really want a beer." and then a coffee with liquor and and who knows how much liquor was really left over but still there wasn't I don't I
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don't drink beers at 10:00 in the morning so it's not I'm not quite a Spaniard yet. It's not my thing. No, I
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think I think it it was a very Almaretho kind of place which was like hopping at that hour that we went and most
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everybody that I saw sitting there were drinking beers or some form of um alcoholic coffee which is the other one,
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the Kahillo, right? Which is the more common one that you see here, which is literally um an espresso cup with a shot
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of liquor. It could be like brandy, rum, brandy, vodka, whatever. Whatever you
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want as far as I've seen you can put it. So this is the the the creme is kind of a really fancy version of the kahillo
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and the kahillo is the one that I see a lot of people um drinking here in this part of Spain and maybe all of Spain. I
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don't know because we haven't visited everywhere but that's kind of like the easy one where it's just like an espresso and a and and liquor and it's
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just put together and that's kind of yeah it's more simple easier to do. Well it's the simple one. It's like the you
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know I don't want to say the poor bands. It's the the it's the busy man's cremeette. The busy man. Yeah. But but
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so you have a friend who said it's more of a northern thing and my Valencian friends say creme is a Valencian thing.
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So I wonder where hab's from because maybe hobby is from the north and he's like no it's from there and my friends
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from here like it's a Valencian thing is it's very valencian. So it'll be, you
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know, but as we also let us know, let us know. But we also know that um any
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paella place you go to is the worst paella place you could ever go to according to anyone who Right. So
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everyone knows, we could probably go to, you know, Gitia, that's from here. You go to Barcelona. No, we invented it.
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Right. It's from here. Yeah. And and my friend that said it's from the north and and the guy in the restaurant said it
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was from the north, too. My friend who said that is from Lyon which is north of
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Madrid. So there is I have two people. I'm just saying I I'm not going to say I win but I think it might be one of those
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things. And Valencia when we when we start when we talk about pay I mean Valencia literally the area where they are growing the rice. So I could I think
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it's legit to say that the that the paas are from the Valencia area. No that's
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not even legit. That's facts. I mean that's on every that's that's that's no that comes from Valencia. But um um you
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know later today I will double I will run back. But you know I've even googled it and they say crime disalencian thing.
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So we'll we'll we'll yeah so okay that's well we'll we'll have to start that
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argument and see where it lands. If I think I also uh remember uh reading
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before is that all of these really originated from like Central America and
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then were brought over. Go way to make it more complicated. I know, right? you had to add other
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countries in here that they were brought over cuz if you think let's just stick to Spain.
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Um Oh, I heard I heard it started in England. So, you know, there you go. Let's just throw it out there.
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Responsible for a lot of things. This isn't one of them. So,
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so those are your those are the sort of the well the coffeeish things. I mean, there's there's more there's more
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coffees. We've talked a little bit about the the um well, should we go into coffees because there's actually there's
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500. So, this episode is about papitas and I think I said that last week at the close that we were going to talk about
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babas and when I first moved here and I still hear the word and I feel like they're offering me babies because papas
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just sounds like babies. It's such a cute word to me. So, it does sound very cute. So, it's cute drinks. We're
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talking cute drinks. So, I've talked a little bit about how frustrated I am at finding cappuccinos,
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so that that still stands. Um, so what I tend to do is by and I like my coffee I
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do generally like my coffee cold. So, I love an iced I love an iced latte. But here in the Valencia part of Spain, you
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cannot get anything iced. You have to ask for the coffee and get the ice on the side. So, you'll ask for like a cafe
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con leche delimpo or an espresso deltmpo. And that deltempo gives you a glass with one of those nice big pieces
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of ice in it. And then you need to mix up your coffee. If you want sugar in it, mix it in. If you don't, then dump it
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over the ice. And then you've got your coffee. You got your iced coffee of however you want it. And I just have to
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just say when you just said that, I I I want to do an aside. The ice cubes here are amazing because they're not cubes. So there's just these giant cylinders of
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icy heavenliness. I'll just say that. And then you can buy the bags at the grocery store, but they're not cubes. It's like it's just it's like one of
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those big huge ice cubes you'd get like at a fancy hotel bar for your whiskey, you know? It's like this
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glorious. I love them. Yes. And I actually went out ages ago and got
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myself one of those big ice cube um the what are they called? The the the
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silicone trays. The silicone trays because you can't get those these types of ice cubes, I don't think, out of a plastic one. I have one of those
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silicone trays that makes those big ice cubes and I love it cuz I now have cuz you just once you once you have these
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big ice cubes in your drink and it takes forever for them to melt, you just can't go home and put these tiny things in your glass. It's like what what am I
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doing? I agree. I don't know about consume, but
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I know our mercadana sells those big ice cubes by the bag. And I didn't realize that because I never shoed for ice, but
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I had a cocktail party um at at Christmas time and one of our friends
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came with a you brought like gin and tonics and they brought this big bag of glorious ice and I was like and there
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was leftovers. So all week long I was like I'm going to put this ice cube in my You were like so fancy all week.
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Yeah. Yeah. And you can buy both. You can buy a bag of regular ice or you can bag buy
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a bag I'm gonna say that you can buy a bag of the big ice cubes. So that's really cool. And then um I think uh like
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my husband like the cortados which I think is like that's it's still like all the coffee drinks are tiny. The
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everything they're all tiny some of them are more tiny. So like the the cafe con leches are probably an eighth of the
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size of an American coffee and then the cortados are even smaller and the espressos are even smaller. So a cortado
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is half espresso half warm milk. So you're getting but it's still in a little shop. It's a tiny latte
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basically tiny latte. And I like because it's a it's a quick and go versus um you
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little shot. I mean you sip it, you can't sip it and sometimes I versus the versus the cafe con leches that take so
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long to drink here because they're so big. Yeah, exactly. They're all They're all a drink and go.
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Like even I mean the the size of a cafe con leche cup compared to an espresso um
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shot glass is maybe maybe twice the size I want to say. But that's really pushing
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it. They're small. For sure. For sure. Which explains why it's hard to get a cappuccino because there's no room for
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foam. You would have like a teaspoon of coffee in there if you did a proper cappuccino. So, right. Um, which is
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fine. So, that's that's my that's my little hangup. And I make my own coffees at home usually because because of that,
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which is totally fine. Are there any other coffees that you like? Well, I do like and I think it's called, you know,
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I can't I the the cafe um bonong bon bon
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bon which is the so in America we call it a kubano but of course they're much smaller here but it's it's the espresso
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with condensed milk in it. So it's like you the layer of condensed milk on the body and put the espresso and you stir
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it and it's sugared sugared condensed milk. Well yeah I mean condensed milk is already very sugared because that's what
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preserves it. No because No, because they make condensed milk here that's not has no sugar in it. They've just condensed the milk. So, I made that
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mistake once. They have if you most grocery stores here will sell this condensed milk that is just condensed
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milk and then you have to find the American it seems in my in my experience the actual milk that is and it might be
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slightly sugared. It might be slightly sweet. The one that they make cuz I've never tried it but like the really
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really super sweet one that the Americans have is a has to come in I think from America as well. No, the one
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at Mercadana is very very sweet because that's the one I use. It's very very sweet. Okay. Yeah, cuz evaporated milk
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is the one without the without. So maybe there's cuz they have Oh, maybe I'm thinking of evaporated milk. Yeah, you
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bought you you bought leche of operado. Okay. So what's that? That's just that's
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evaporated milk. So it's not the sugar added. So it's like the water
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and when and for some time I was looking for condensed milk to make caramel to do
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my millionaire shortbread. Uhhuh. And you need the you need Yeah. You need that really you there's so much sugar in
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that caramel you need the evaporated you need the condensed milk and all I could find was the evaporated milk and so yeah
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anyway so the coffee you're talking about they're making it with actual condensed milk cuz I don't think it's quite hard to find here. No, it's not.
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Moradana has it a whole Okay. whole thing of it because I buy they had different sizes and and then you know
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that they to to to um go back to some things we've said before about food and
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and the preservatives and stuff, you know, you have to you know, once you open everything, everything says you have three days or you'll die. And so
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you buy this thing of condensed milk and and it's like you have three days. I'm like, how am I going to go through this even the smallest container of condensed
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milk in three days? You know, million millionaire shortbread. Millionaire short. Well, I don't Someone has to give
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me a recipe or but you know, one day. Yeah, one day. So, anyway, so it's an
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So, it's an espresso with half and half like an half espresso, half condensed milk. Is that about like that? Yeah.
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Maybe less than half of the condensed milk, but it's there and you It's so sweet and yummy. It's very sweet, but
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it's That sounds tasty, but probably not sweeter than the the creme creme cuz that was very sweet. It was flavorful,
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but it was very sweet. It was very sweet. Yeah, I do like that. Yeah. Mhm. That's me on coffee. I know that Jawad's
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had a hard time finding like American drip coffee. Even in like Starbucks, they're like, "Yeah, that's broken." You know, because I don't think they even
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want to make it. So, the best you're going to get here is an Americano, I think. Right. I mean, I haven't even seen anyone try to order drip. But they
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do sell drip machines. I've seen I've seen them at
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That's how we ended up with one at home because it was like Yeah, that's not happening outside of your house, I don't think. And I personally don't like drip
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coffee. So, there you go. I Me either. Yeah, me either. I'm out too. Don't like
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it. But you know, so we we've we've we've talked about coffee and now we need to come down from coffee, which is
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which is the which is the um the reason for the the cremeat to have the liquor,
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right? To to bring you down. You have the coffee to bring you up from the liquor, but the liquors bring you down so you can go back to work and your boss
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has done the wiser, right? I guess it's the I suppose or everyone's drunk, so it doesn't matter. Maybe that's how it
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goes. But the the there's two drinks here that you know are were new to me
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when I arrived and one being the the Tinto Verano which um in layman's term
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is like Fanta lemon with red wine and it is the most refreshing delicious thing.
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It is. So I'll tell you a funny like Okay, so we've been here five years. Mhm.
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I have yet to drink a sangria because the first time that I sat down in a restaurant and I was going
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to order a sangria and my Spanish friend was like, "Uh, no, you need a tinto verano." And I ordered one of those. I
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have never gone back. I have never come back. Never. They are pure heaven in a glass. And they're they're they're
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deadly in a way that it's 950 degrees. I feel like I always tell people how hot
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and humid it is here in every episode, but um when you're having them in the
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summer, they're so refreshing that you just you like you guzzle it down not
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remembering that there's wine in it because it's a very like it's it's a wine lemonade kind of thing with it's
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really good and it Yeah, it comes what they what I've had it in which I love is this comes in a huge glass a trough I
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think we call that a trough. It is it is amazing. It's like a really if imagine just like a really nice big um red wine
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glass, right? Like a stemmed white wine. That's red wine glass. That's what it comes in. And I'm going to I think they do make it in different ways because the
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way I the way I've always had it is not with the Fanta lemon, but actually they have a they have a um a soda here called
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Aquarius, which is a very very very lightly flavored um fizzy and lightly
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sugared drink. So, it's like a it's a soda, but it's kind of one it's a few steps off of like a soda water where
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it's got sugar and it's got lemon, but it's not super super lemony and super super sugary. I mean, it's so it's a
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little bit somewhere in between and that's what I've had it made with. Okay. Because Aquarius is actually an
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electrolyte drink. So, that's and so it's interesting that they're using that because that's what that purpose of it
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is. I've seen that they have also like in the um in the grocery store they have
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a a soda water that has lemon like La Casada or something like that. It's like a brand that also Oh yeah. Yeah. because
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they make the they also make the the premixed tinto verano at the grocery store that you can buy in like 2 liter
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bottles like it's a Coca-Cola, you know, and it's like and it's like a euro50 and you're like how are like how bad is this
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wine if this whole this thing is e50? Well, I don't know cuz I'll I'll buy that because I don't drink a lot. So, I
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buy the the the the sin alcohol one of those which I like and and then I you
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can so and it comes with you know when you when you get it whe you make it at home or you get it in a restaurant it comes with one of these nice big glass
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with the nice big ice cubes. It comes with a slice of lemon and it is the most refreshingly delicious drink and I I
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love it. I just love it. It's the best way to have like a nice kind of long drink. And you said you Yeah. It doesn't
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taste like there's any alcohol in it if you get the alcohol ones. So, you can drink those. But sangria is a little bit
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like that, too, where it's really super flavorful and you're suddenly like, "Wow, I'm feeling a little tipsy." Right. So, but but but the sangria, you
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know, I for my experience, you know, I haven't had sangria here yet either because I either Oh my god, that's so
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funny. I thought like you, why why would I go? Because my only memory of sangria
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is, you know, college parties and, you know, parties in people's houses and it's just so it's I don't want to say
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tarp, but it's that, you know, you get that in your throat. It's that it's kind of that uh you know, it's a little
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turpentiny to me like it because you can taste the vodka in it. You can or whatever liquor they're putting in it with the I think you may not have had a
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good one. I think let's say because because sangria can be really really good. It can be overly like how
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I'm not saying it's not good. I'm saying once you've had Tinto Verado
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No, for sure. No, absolutely. But also a really nice sangria. I think the difference for me between the sangria and the Tinto Verano is that the sangria
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is a little heavier. So if you have a really good sangria, it's going to be a heavier drink. Even though it is like a
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long drink and it can have a lot of ice and stuff and there's more alcohol in it for sure. So, the Tinto Verano is more
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refreshing and it's lighter and it may not sound really good mixing wine with a with a lemony fizzy drink, but it is
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perfect. Yes, it is perfect. Now, there is something
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they do in the north with red wine that you think is disgusting. I brought it up to you and I forgot the name of it. Um,
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which is the where they'll mix red wine with Coca-Cola and I have Oh my god. Yeah, you told me that. I'm like, what?
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Maybe it tastes better than it sounds. It does taste really good. It tastes really not like a Tinto Verano. Not like
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refreshing, but it's you know it's like it sounds It sounds like a version of
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Tinto Verano. Like they took it and was like, "Let's try it with Coke." Right. What I want to do is do a Tinto Verono
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with white wine though because I want to see I want it to be really refreshing. Oh, would that be nice? Yes. I'm like,
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how's that not a thing? How does that not exist? Yeah. How is that not a thing? I don't know. Well, what they do
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have here, I guess, would would be kind of similar, except Which one is the Aua
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de Valencia? Have you had one of those? So, I've tried one once, but I will say
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that's way too much alcohol for me. Gotcha. Just it's that that for sure is like drinking a Long Island iced tea or
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something where where you're just like, "Oh, that's a lot. That's a lot." Yeah. But it's it's it's tasty. Maybe I'm an
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old blush because I didn't see it that way. So, when I've had them a couple times,
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um, to me they're very refreshing. Yes, you could taste the liquor, but it's I've been had them on hot summer days
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and it's just because it's it's fruit juice and vodka and gin and champagne
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that it's you're like, it's it's a lot. It's a lot. But yeah, if you if you're maybe not in the sun, maybe it's a good
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thing. It's it's definitely a very special Valencian drink that is probably worth trying if you can handle that much alcohol. But one of those and I'm out.
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Yeah. So, for me, like it's like a summer on a summer day, I had this and
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for me, I mean, I didn't taste the alcohol cuz I taste the orange juice and the refreshing champagne and it's all hitting the spot. So, um, it didn't hit
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me like I didn't feel it, but when I got up from the table to then go walk, I was like,
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"Oh, I should have had some, um, awa without the Valencia." Did you remember how to walk? Yeah, you should have had
24:59
Do you remember how to walk after that one? It was a slower walk home. Um, it was a happier walk though, too, you
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know. So, I can taste all those different alcohols in it, but like you said, it doesn't it it it does taste
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good. So you can drink it, but yeah, it's it because of the amount of different alcohols as well. I think
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generally that's not a good thing to have like wine and vodka and gin and everything all in like one drink, right?
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Which is part of the reason why I don't enjoy sangria as much because it's all those other liquors mixed with the wine
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and and that to like this is magical, right? Because I've made like I'll I have made back home um back home well no
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this is home now. I was running my daughter's sister's home when we lived in the states. We go to a pool party. I
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did make this uh uh soda e white wine. So, I'll give my recipe to the people
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live there. You take some squirt, which is kind of like a Fanta lemon. Um yeah, but it's more grapefruit. You take that
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and some uh cheap white wine, mix those together with a bunch of cut fruit. Oh, that will make everyone happy by the
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pool. Just FYI. There you go. I mean that and that's the thing. It's like how much alcohol do you want in your drink, basically? And I think the thing that I
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love about the Tinto Verano is that it it is less and it's refreshing. So you could have one or two of those and
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really not feel a lot. But if you depending on where you're going probably. And then speaking of Oh, go
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ahead. I was going to say, but if you're by the pool and you've had like seven cuz they're so refreshing and you're sweating like crazy and then you get up
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and you're like, "Oh, okay." Yeah. There's something to be said to be tasting the alcohol you're drinking,
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right? A little bit. Um the other thing so in England we have something called a chandi. Do you know what that is? What
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that is? It's a beer and like ginger ale or 7 upp right. Beer and like seven upp. Yeah. So here they have the same thing
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basically which is a cl which is a beer and lemon soda of some sort. So probably also like a Sprite or Seven Up or an
26:52
Aquarius or something. So that's also a drink which is I don't drink beer at all. Neither do I. So we're not going to
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be talking about that for long. But that is a longer beer drink that you could get that's a little bit like a Tinto
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Verona but on the beer side. So it's like you're mixing it up and and sort of spreading out the alcohol a little bit I
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think. Right. Right. Um what I will also think and I think we've mentioned this before it's ironic is like when we get
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Coke and Pepsi here um it has less sugar. So for us it just tastes kind of
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diety. It doesn't have that same flavor. And it's not because it's made with real sugar because like in LA you can get the
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hedo in Mexico Coca-Cola where it's made with the real cane sugar and that's just pure heaven and it tastes like 1983,
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right? You're like that's the Coke from my youth. That's the way it's supposed to taste. And then we move here and it's
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got the cane sugar but it's less. So I'm like it's it's not it's missing the punch. But yet I'll get like a Fanta lemon or orange and I'm like this tastes
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like it has tons of sugar. Maybe it's because the Fanta here also uses real fruit juice versus the ones in the
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States. Oh, but that that will get my like my my blood sugar need versus where
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a Coke wouldn't as much. Just a heads up on on a whole like a like a proper Coke
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wouldn't do it. No, like if I'm having that kind of like hot but blood sugary kind of thing, you know how like a Coke
28:09
can be so refreshing. I don't find them refreshing here like I do the ones back in the States. And there is a lower
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sugar count because by law there's a lower sugar count in these days. I mean, I don't drink the sugar sugared Coke so
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I wouldn't know the difference. Um, so take your word for it. Coke and Coke Zero seems to be the big thing because I
28:27
feel like whenever I go out and I order a Coke for my daughters, they're like the Coke Zero and you're like, "No,
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classic regular like Coke Coke." And I feel like Well, and I'm not a big I don't know everything about this, but I
28:39
don't understand how you have here you have Diet Coke and you have Coke Zero. I don't know what the difference is. I think it has something to do with the
28:45
flavor, but I don't know why they have both. No, they have both in the States, too. It's it's it's worldwide. I don't.
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So, Diet Coke is the one that has that very neutra sweet taste. That's the one that's been around. And Coke Zero is
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newer, I don't know, 10 years, I don't know. And that's supposed to taste more like Coke Coke. So, Diet Coke has its
29:04
own flavor profile, which was trying to replace the Tab, right? That because Tab Cola was the original Diet Coke before
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they came out with Diet Coke. And then, okay, now you're really going back.
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This is a history lesson in Coca-Cola, apparently. I say let's get back to Spanish drinks
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and we can move. If you don't have any other um if you don't have any other alcoholic drinks, I there's a few
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non-alcoholic drinks that we could So, what do you like? What What are some of your
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Iur say there's there is a drink here and I don't know how much of Spain it covers. I'm not a huge fan, but it does
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taste relatively good. It's just not really my thing, which is the hochata. And that is a milk basically
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that's made made out of tigern nuts. So if you think about like a like an almond milk or whatever milk like it's that
29:55
type of thing but it's made made out of tigern nuts and it's really really really popular like for kids and it's
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it's sold in like they have literally just places that just do like ice cream and hohata and it's like flavored with
30:07
like cinnamon and stuff, right? Isn't that the flavoring? It does. I I'm not 100% sure. It does have other flavors and you can also have get it. Um a big
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thing here is the granos which are like basically like the ice the ice drinks.
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What are they called? Shaved ice. It's like shaved ice. And they put like um they they make that with um lemon which
30:27
is really good. And they make it with coffee which I haven't tried but I would imagine that's quite good. Those are the two like a like a snow cone or is it a
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drinky slushie? It's more hard. Uh, more like an icy slushie. Like an icy
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slushie. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm also not a big fan of the horchata. I'll just say that. I've had it and it's it's missing
30:46
something to me. I feel like it's not done. That's just me. That's my favorite. It's quite creamy. I mean I mean I wouldn't drink like almond milk
30:52
over it. But what they do with the horchata too is they make it into a granado which is like they put that and have it as a as a slushy horchat as
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well. And then it it usually comes with which I love the name. They it usually comes also with the fatons. Right. Yeah.
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which so that's always a fun one because we're all 14y olds and we are all 14y
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olds and those are these like sticks these like um pastry sticks that have
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sugary bread sticks that have an extra sugary layer on the top and those are really good. So like that'll be a snack for kids which is the hohata with the
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with the fratons will be a very common I think at certain times of the year too and then you get like stands out on the
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street that just sell horchata and those things as well. So it's like a very definitely here and I don't know how far
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into Spain this goes. The horchata is very very popular. It's very popular and it's a very much an afterchool Marienda
31:43
thing. You'll see a lot of parents you with their little especially the younger kids that they pick them up from like the the esquea infantil you know they'll
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pick that up. Yes. Exactly. So you can buy that iced you can buy it
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in milk cartons. You can just buy it everywhere. You can find a store that just sells it. And yeah, it's it's I
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mean, like I said, it's not it's not offensive in its flavor. It's just it's like drinking a kind of a creamy milk thing, which is just not really my
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thing, right? I'm not a milk drinker either. Um yeah, so it's very popular, I think, in that way. I will say I do like
32:15
a chocolate milk and the and the pre-made chocolate milk that they sell at the stores here is to me heaven on earth cuz it's like drinking a chocolate
32:22
bar from Switzerland. Like it's just the most intense deep chocolate cuz it's not really milky. It's a kind of a dark
32:28
chocolate profile to it and it's So thick and Oh, it's so good. Well, to your point earlier, I think they
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actually make it with chocolate, so it is actually really good. Yeah. Which kind of goes back to the whole like food
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and and drink and everything here, which is that like you were saying with the even with the sodas, it's like they're
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making it with real like fruit juice. They're making the the chocolate milk with actual milk and chocolate. I mean,
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just and real sugar. So, you know, you feel like everything has a much richer
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flavor to it because it's the real things that they're making things out of, you know, and back to the hohata,
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it's made with the t the the ground and soaked and whatever, however they make milk out of tiger nuts and it has that
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flavor, right? So, you know, whether you like it or not, it has flavor, flavor, delicious flavors. And and to go back,
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you know, before, you know, I think in Darius episodes, we talked about the hot chocolate here and when it's made like
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pudding and you got the one finally that was made like pudding and you were very happy and but so the stuff you can buy
33:29
that that the powder at the store and make it. We've made it at home and it's really easy. You just add a bunch of it
33:35
and it turns into this like hot pudding in your cup. Well, that I like to drink a mocha at home. So that's what I use to
33:41
make my my mochas. Oh my gosh. Really? Does it make it thicker then? cuz it must have a thick thing in it. I don't use enough to make it thicker, but it is
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just so heavenly chocolaty versus trying to use like how That's a really It's
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really good. That's a really good idea. I have a bag of that in the kitchen. I'm going to try that later. Oh my gosh, I never even thought of doing that because
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what that is what's nice about the the powdered version of that hot chocolate is you can make it as as thick or as not
34:06
as thick as you want depending on what you want to use it for. Right. So good. So good. Oh my god. Because I do love a
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good mocha, which is another thing you can't really get here. So if you go out for a coffee, Yeah. you're not getting
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that. So I make those for myself at home. I went to this one place and they they had mocha on their board. And Oh,
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yeah. And so I was like, "Oh, I want a mocha." And then I was like, "Can I have it on ice?" And he looked at like me
34:31
like I was a from a foreign country, which I am from a foreign country. I mean like a different planet. Like I was
34:37
an alien. I was not human to him. And so he was so confused how to make. I was like, "Just the way you would make it in
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the hot cup, just pour it on the ice." And I didn't know about Elmpo. Maybe that's would have done Delto. Sorry. And
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then and I end up getting it and it was like all this milk. It just wasn't right. So yes, that ice and they do have
34:56
a Starbucks and I'll get an ice mocha from Starbucks about once a year, once every eight months because it's not my thing. But every once in a while I'll
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crave that special Starbucks mocha taste. Starbucksy chocolate flavor.
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Yeah. But I mean way way to be, you know, given an inch and taking a mile. Like you were so excited to see a mocha,
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then you also wanted it over ice. Like what were you thinking?
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Cuz I will say we we you know, we had a restaurant with a coffee shop. Like making the making the ratios right for
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that to be over ice is a little different and you do have to adjust for it. So if you're not making it yourself,
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it's just Yeah, that was very optimistic of you. But well done for your optimism.
35:38
Yeah, I try to be cheery. I try. It's, you know, oh my goodness.
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The other thing is, you know, we, you know, Valencia is, you know, the Valencia orange. There's orange fields and uh all surrounding us. And what was
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very surprising for me here is um they have like uh I'm not a vending machine,
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but you know when if you want fresh orange juice, they have a machine with a big trough of oranges on top at the
36:08
grocery store in the produce aisle and you buy and they sell the you know you you get the bottles, you put it in there
36:14
and you pull a lever and it's squeezing fresh orange juice for you right into the thing. And what I I think is really
36:19
ingenious when you screw it on, it seals it like in like like you just bought it. You have to crack the seal when you
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reopen it. Um you didn't have that in the States cuz we had that in a grocery store near us in the States. Maybe it's
36:30
some really I first time I'd ever seen it was here. So and my cousin who lives in Florida, she's like I've never seen
36:36
that. I was like well Florida's oranges. You would think. I mean so I was very surprised. So maybe it was at a was this at like a Whole Foody kind of fancy?
36:43
Probably at like a Whole Food. Yeah. Which I didn't shop that much in those. I'm a single dad of two kids. I'm not
36:48
buying my groceries at Ear1 or Whole Foods or No, Air1. Jeez. Well, I will
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say like speaking of them, I I mean, and it's really fancy that when you screw the top on, it actually closes it. I
37:00
bought the other day because I like to buy every now and again, I buy like one water bottle that has like the the
37:07
sports top or whatever you call it, the the sippy cup top. And then I'll re Yeah. But it has the top that you can,
37:13
you know, for the sports drinking. and then I'll reuse them. And I bought this little one that was really cute that was
37:19
I just needed a bit of water and I was at like Meodono or something and I bought one of those little bottles. Cannot get the top off. So it's like a
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fragrance bottle, right? It's like it's like they've they've added this extra they've added this extra layer of
37:33
plastic at the bottom of the of the lid so that you can't get it off and refill it, which thoroughly irritated me cuz
37:39
I'm like that's the whole point of getting those bottles is to have them to refill and take them to the beach or whatever. Right. And to actually make a
37:46
bottle top that you can't take off. I'm assuming they think that means that I'm going to go buy more bottles from them.
37:51
But now I'm buying no bottles from them. You buy no bottles? No. I wonder. Okay. So, I'm going to play devil's advocate.
37:57
Maybe you're not supposed to reuse plastic bottles because every time you reuse it, they they say it degrades the
38:03
plastic and putting more microplastics in your body. So, maybe it's a health thing. So, I'm going to say maybe they're looking out for you instead of
38:09
being gray. Um, and there's also the thing that maybe it's also the waste thing because you know all the soap like
38:15
all the bottles that you buy, bottled water, Coke bottles, everything has these attached tops. So you take it off
38:22
but it's still attached to the bottle. So you know, right? But this was different. This was literally you can't
38:28
take it off. But I mean, is there a big difference between me reusing one of those? Now we're getting into a health show. Is there any difference between me
38:35
reusing that plastic bottle than going to like the Chinese store and buying a plastic reusable like bottle and using
38:42
that over and over? Yeah, they're different plastics. So, one is a different plastics. Yeah, it's it's a different plastic thing. You all didn't
38:49
know you were going to get so much education on today's podcast, did you? Probably everybody else knows this but
38:55
me. So, all of this information could possibly be wrong. So, who knows? cuz I
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do have a glass one that I got for that reason, but it's hard to walk around with the with a glass bottle in your bag
39:06
and in the car and stuff. So, you know, I understand that glass is better, but it is that's that's difficult to
39:12
actually do that walking around with it. But yeah, so I guess maybe maybe they
39:17
were trying to help me. Okay. Or or the waist. They didn't want the cop the the the cap to come off and then it's just
39:23
waste. That's why I understand that's why they have the Coke bottles the way they are where that thing is there which
39:28
is like very frustrating. Those tops if people have not experienced these yet.
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Um um I mean every Spaniard, everyone living in Spain has experienced these in Europe. I think it's a European thing.
39:39
If you just take it off and flip it, it's a wonderful idea because you can drink but then it becomes harder to
39:45
screw it back on. But if you It's impossible to get back on. Yeah. But if you do an extra tear of the another tab,
39:52
then it's so floppy that you can't pour out of it because then it like gravity pulls the thing below the spout and then
39:58
you're getting it everywhere but the glass you're trying to pour it into. And also when you try to drink out of
40:04
the bottle, it hits your nose and now you've got a cap on your nose while you're trying to drink. There's like
40:10
nothing really good about the logistics. And they and then if you and you pour it then from the cup if you try to put the
40:15
cap back on now the the cap is still filled with more liquid. So you're still spilling more everywhere you go. It's
40:20
such a mess. We clearly have a very long learning curve for this new thing that
40:26
came out like a year ago. I think they started coming out and it was like what is going on? And you literally cannot
40:32
pull them off. I mean they the the plastic that's holding that cup that lid to the bit of plastic that goes around
40:38
the the neck of the bottle is you need scissors. That's it. There's no way to get that off. It's pretty intense. Well,
40:43
it's been longer than a year because we've been here two almost two years now and it's been since we arrived. So, Oh,
40:49
okay. Has it It wasn't like that when we first got here. So, maybe it started happening when you arrived and Yeah,
40:57
from then maybe. And it's expanded because I remember when we arrived here, our awakon gas that we love um did not
41:04
have that top, but now it does have that top, but the Coke. So I think it slowly
41:09
has progressed to its global takeover. It has colonized all the bottles in Spain. It has and I think it hit England
41:17
a little later because I had been quite well aware and using them and annoyed by them for some time before I went to
41:23
England and my mom was like, "What is going on? I can't get this lid off." Because of course you're in this mindset. You're going to take the lid
41:28
off and there's not it's not coming off. Right. Right. It's like what did they do?
41:35
Oh jeez. Goodness. Jeez. The trials and tribulations of of drinking out of
41:41
bottles. Maybe that's they're trying to tell us something. Drink out of a glass people. I know. Okay. Maybe you can
41:46
answer for me because how do you order if you just since your SP your espanol
41:52
is so bueno? Yeah, that's so bueno. Trey bueno. Oh, that's French and
41:58
Spanish. That's French. We are learning. It's hard. That's hard.
42:04
It's hard. It is hard. Um, how do you order if you want just a glass of tap
42:09
water at a place which is hard to get it's not they want they want to sell the
42:14
bottles of water because that's in like cash flow people have weird I don't have an issue with the tap water here I'll
42:20
drink it but when you get your bill you're like that bottle of water was more expensive than a glass of wine and I know I can't feed my kids wine but
42:26
come on now water should be cheaper than a glass of wine I you know yeah I don't necessarily do that but um I think that
42:34
you can ask for tap tap water and I have to say I don't know I don't know how to do that in Spanish um
42:40
because usually people are quite surprised like you said and it is such a standard right
42:46
it is such an expectation that they're going to bring you a bottle and if you're lucky they sell little bottles that's all you can hope for because
42:52
often it's a it's a big whatever how many liters that bottle is like of the big one that everyone shares at the
42:58
table that's normally what the restaurants have so you're you're down with a giant bottle and if you don't
43:03
know and have made the mistake then ordered like three because there's three people at the table and you get three liters. You're like, I don't we don't
43:09
need that much for the table and they bring it to you with the the the top already cracked off so they can't return it, right? Like they're not taking it
43:15
back and nor would I ask. I'm not one of those send it back people, but you know. Yeah. And usually the question about
43:21
water is whether you want it cold or room temperature. That's usually the the the the options that you get out of the
43:27
tap is not usually an option. And with or without gas, right? Color or s gas is your Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, with or
43:32
without gas. But you could ask, I don't know if this would be the right way to do it. But aguadel griefo. So the griefo
43:38
is a tap. So maybe if you ask for that, they'll get it out of the tap. They'll definitely look at you weird like why would you want that? Even though I think
43:45
it's fine. I think it's I mean there are people who have issues with the water and I personally think it's fine. No
43:50
one's dying from it. It's fine. I I am not an anti-tap water person. So I I will drink it. So I think I will say the
43:57
tap water here is is very very it's it's clear. It's tasty. It's fine. one of the
44:02
issues and I cannot this is something that I learned about when I moved here um and I cannot believe that this is not
44:08
an issue everywhere. So for me I'm thinking that other parts of the world and other areas where I've lived maybe
44:15
people need to be looking into this because basically the issue that the tap water here is that it's high in nitrates
44:21
which is something to do with the farming and that is something that can affect you over a long period of time.
44:28
Really? I did not know that. I thought people were just complaining because of the minerals because it's a very hard water too, right? Yeah, it's also very
44:34
hard. But I don't know that that's necessarily a bad thing. But when we first moved here and we went to the grocery store and that you know how you
44:40
know how the Spanish shop here, it's the it's the the grandmas are are cooking for everybody on a on a Saturday or a
44:45
Sunday and they are buying like two carts of food. Right. Right. And it's insane. And and when we first got home,
44:50
we were like, everybody, even these really old ladies and old men are buying four or five bottles of water. And we're
44:56
like, why are they buying water? It seems insane to be carrying all this water back to your house. Like that was
45:01
the part where we were like, what is going on? And this is what was explained to me. And they sell five gallon jugs of
45:07
water. It's not like in, you know, the states maybe you can find a two gallon jug. They have these big five gallon jugs of water at the stores here. Yeah.
45:14
And they're buying like five of them. And I don't know who's helping them get home honestly because there's no I'm not
45:19
carrying that much water either. So I when we looked into it, that's what I found was that it's like there's there
45:25
nitrates, but I mean there's farming everywhere. There's no way that that is something that's special to Spain. So when but when we got the when we got our
45:33
house, we did put in a um a uh oh my god, an osmosis. What's it called? A
45:38
reverse osmosis. Reverse osmosis. Um because that's the only way to get the nitrates out of the water. So and then
45:45
and so if you you can't just filter it with a like a brittle filter or something. you need the reverse osmosis
45:50
to get the nitrates out. So, that's what you can do in your own house. And but I mean, we're still showering, brushing
45:56
our teeth, and the other one. I mean, it's it's definitely more of a it's not going to kill you tomorrow. It's not like you you're going to get like really
46:04
sick over it. It's just one of those the nitrates I think will eventually will be long-term high nitrates in your water
46:10
will longterm be bad for your health. But yeah, so that's what's going on. So people are buying water and that's why
46:15
technically people are just giving you water in bottles at the restaurants. But a tap water, a glass of tap water here
46:21
and there is not going to kill you. And I don't find I think it tastes fine. It does not taste Yes, it tastes great. Um
46:26
but it is very hard. You know your shower after two showers if if you don't have a squeegee, you've got spots and
46:32
then you're like getting a chisel to scrape those those spots off. What do you eventually decide to clean your
46:37
shower? I had I had Yeah, I had Zena clean the the showerheads because all the little
46:43
holes, right? I'm like, you got to get in there and, you know, get all the little bits out of all the little holes, you know, right? It's like, why? What?
46:50
And then she's like, "Mom, I got blown across the bathroom when I took a shower cuz the shower was hardly clean."
46:57
Now it's now it's got like 50 holes in it, too.
47:02
But no, I absolutely Which I think I need to do our shower heads. Yeah, they I think the water here is really good
47:08
and I I wouldn't complain about it and I would totally drink tap water if I was if my general water is filtered and I'm
47:14
going out for a restaurant here and there. I don't have any problem with it. Right. Yeah. We're not we're not in like rural Mexico, right? We're not in No,
47:21
it's very I think it's very good water. But I will say I this cannot be unique to Spain. There's absolutely no way.
47:27
Right. Right. So, you know, this is something that they're saying like it's for farming. All that stuff gets into
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the water table. Blah blah blah. Well, I mean, if you think about it, if you're coming from like California where
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there's all these farms and they're using chemicals, right? Right here, this is like more natural farming. So, it's, you know, it's you don't have, you know,
47:44
the farming here is pretty much organic, right? This is just the natural fertilizers, whatever that they're using, right? No, no, no, no. They they
47:51
they spray all sorts of I if you drive around the farms, I mean, they are spraying most of them. I mean, there's no way to do this much farming without
47:58
those sort of chemicals. I don't know what they're spraying, but they have the tractors going through spraying for some
48:04
some sort of things, but probably not the harsh chemicals that are killing all the birds in California, right? All the
48:09
No. Yeah. A lot of the a lot of the stuff that is sprayed on the on the farms in
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America is banned here. So, they can't spray with that. They can still spray, but they're not spraying with that. They're not spraying with the Roundup
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and stuff. That's banned here. So, and for your garden as well. One day, we had these dreams of interviewing people.
48:26
Maybe we can interview a farmer. They could tell us what is the stuff that they use. What are the pesticides they're allowed to use and Oh, we're the
48:35
thing. Yeah. Maybe I mean and that's why I'm like this this cannot be the only place that has this issue because maybe
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they're just the only people because they're very conscious about it that they've actually read up on it and they know that it's happening, you know? So,
48:45
that would be interesting to Yeah. to talk to someone who knows about water, too. All right. Side note, this doesn't affect our listeners, but I just want to
48:52
know from my own personal knowledge. So, we have city water. Do you have city water up in the mountain or do you have like wells or what's or are they pipe
48:58
city water? So, we have a we have a natural spring that's very close to our
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house that's all spring water um which we've which we you can go it's actually really nice like you can go there.
49:10
They've actually created like a situation where they have taps on the spring and it and it like um it they
49:16
collect the water and then you can just get the the water straight from the mountain technically and people go there
49:21
with their empty bottles and fill it up and take those home and we've done that. How are you just telling me about this?
49:28
I want to taste what that tastes like. I want to I want to taste like everything else. It tastes like water.
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But I honestly not not I didn't really get into it. So I don't know who's testing it and I don't know but every
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like a lot of people are drinking that water. It's probably very good. And then I think our water is also coming somehow
49:46
from a maybe a slightly better source than your water in the city, but I don't know. Your water in the city may well be
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coming from where we're getting it just further down the road, you know. But you're paying for your water. It's not like you don't have a personal well or
49:57
anything like that. No. No. But there are there are like really far out um houses that have that that is how they
50:03
get their water. But we have a friend that has a house. Um, and the other thing you can have here is you can have
50:08
like a well, but maybe it doesn't have water in it. You can have water delivered to your house like couple of
50:14
times a year and they literally back up a truck with water and and fill up your well. You get water cuz you're off the
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grid. Exactly. So, that's something that I know quite a few people that do as well. Gotcha. Okay. But and again, I
50:27
don't know where that water comes from. I don't think it's the same water that comes in the bottles in like the office that people have those here too where
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you can get water delivered from there's lots of companies where you can just like in America or in England you can
50:39
get the the big bottles delivered to your house and you drink out of those. Right. Right. Interesting. That was an
50:45
aside. Now in case someone's moving here we threw in a little moving thing you know that you can get well water shipped
50:52
in water. Right. Well, because we were debating when we got the house, do we get the those water bottles delivered or
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do we get a water filter? Right. So, you know, there's there there's still choices of things you can do, right?
51:05
Right. But none of none of them taste as as good as a tintovano, I'll tell you that. No, that's why they have it.
51:13
Yes. Exactly. Oh, I want to round this episode up with something that you had
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said at the beginning about when we were and I forgot to be be snarky then is
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when you said you forgot to be snarky. I forgot. Can you believe that? When you were saying that when you were when we
51:30
were at Kio Kioskapola uh that
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the paragent's on the E at the beginning, I'm not saying I'm saying it right, but
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you're supposed to put the accent on the beginning. So try it again.
51:48
That sounded I don't know. Anyway, but you were saying that that you noticed that everyone had some sort of liquor. I
51:54
would just like to add to that. Um, everyone in the city at the cafes at that time have some sort of liquor on
52:01
their table because I'll leave the gym at around 10:00 in the morning and everyone is drinking wine, beers, and
52:08
things. What? Oh, so everybody Everybody. It's not just that place. Oh
52:14
yes. No, that is true. No, no, no, no. Everybody, everybody, there is a
52:19
healthy, which is I think very unusual. Um, if you're coming from America anyway, there is a very healthy liquor
52:26
sensor uh section behind the behind the bar in the kitchen or whatever in every
52:31
cafe in this part of Spain. Yes. Because that is a big big part of serving coffee
52:36
here. And and what I will also say is you you the Spaniards are known and and
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I've and I see it with my own eyes. They they drinking they take drinking much
52:48
more responsibly. Um you don't see party drinkers. I mean at least in Valencia. I don't know what it's like, you know? I
52:53
mean I don't want to compare it to like the coastal cities with all the tourists, but here people drink all day, but you don't see like just drunkenness.
53:00
I mean we've got one or two in the neighborhood that are just like the village drunk, right? But we don't have
53:05
that kind of, you know, just craziness unless it's like during Fiestas. But they're still not like stumbling.
53:10
They're just really having a good time. And it's like a friend. It's a com commodater. What's that word?
53:18
Commodery. Camaraderie. Camaraderie. Thank you. No, I would agree. I have
53:23
been constantly surprised at seemingly how much alcohol is is drunk or seems to
53:31
be going on. And I don't I've never seen like people stumbling out of alto and
53:38
and and bars in the morning or I mean it's just not happening. Like people are drinking their I I guess they're
53:44
drinking their one coffee with the alcohol in it and that's it. You know they're not just like oh let's have another let's have another. Like I mean
53:50
some of the places where I've lived it's like if people start drinking that's the end of it. That's the end of the day. That's that's that's so this idea Yeah.
53:57
this idea that you can kind of just have a little drink here and there and that's part of your day and and you go back
54:02
about your business and I mean it's it's very it is very interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. It's impressive. Um it's
54:09
impressive. It's impressive. Mhm. Yeah. I really I I think it's a I I I think
54:15
all of the different drinks that we've had and I like I said I don't drink a lot but all of these all of these types of drinks I think are very unique. I
54:21
don't think I've lived somewhere with so many variety of drinks between all the sort of unique things that the kids are
54:26
drinking to all these coffees and the different things you can have with your with your lunch and everything and then
54:32
on top of that they have all the margaritas and all the other drinks that you can have. I mean that's just these we just talked about the Spanish things
54:37
that right if you do move here you know listeners that um and visit here what is
54:43
surprising is vodka is not a thing in Spain. So if you go to a if you go to a
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liquor store or one of the fancy Elcourt grocery stores where they have a huge liquor section, huge wine section, they
54:56
will have a 20 foot wide eter of all the gins that have ever been created in the
55:01
world. And then you turn the corner and I have pictures and I will post this in our in our post this week of this the
55:07
edge with the vodka and they it it's shoved in there with vodka rum and tequila and there's like one little
55:13
lonely absolute one little gray goose one little smearing off it's not like this wide array and when you go to a bar
55:20
like it's ginonic like that's what that's the ginonics and like whiskey tend to be what people are drink and um
55:27
I I don't go out to bars I'm single dad have two kids I I ain't going nowhere you know what I But every once in a while, like I'll go out, a friend will
55:33
be in town. I'm like, "Let's go get a drink." And my drink of choice if I'm gonna have hard liquor is a vodka
55:39
martini. And getting that here um is impossible. Um uh because they will just
55:46
serve you a glass of vermouth because that is a martini in Europe. And um and I've told them, "No, I want vodka with a
55:53
just a splash of vermouth." And they they don't know. They can't understand the words out of my mouth. I've
55:58
explained it. I've been able to achieve that goal once or twice, but they were so scared to make it because it wasn't
56:04
on their like menu. Sure. So, they didn't know how to charge and so I was like given up. Yeah, I think it's very
56:12
difficult here to get things adjusted, which I like. It's just this is how it is and this is how it's served. And
56:17
obviously the gin and tonics are very popular because the British, you know, been here for a lot longer and a lot
56:22
more mass than the Americans. So the gin has obviously really expanded here a lot
56:28
to come to make us all happy. And I do love a good gin and tonic. So you know maybe you just need to adjust. But yeah,
56:34
I think that's definitely the way. I mean if you go to other European countries, this is the menu. This is what's on it. If you want to adjust it,
56:40
not a great plan. But what the thing that kills me about it though is like I'm literally just asking you to put vodka on ice and then pour it out into a
56:46
glass. and and what I'm having a hard time with the we're resisting it's like
56:53
it's in James Bond. It's not like it's some like esoteric thing. It's been in
56:58
Hollywood movies and they love a Hollywood movie here. So they they've seen it shake and not stirred for 70
57:04
years, however long James Bond's been around. 60 years. Well, but he didn't say what he what he I mean he did ask
57:10
for a certain type of martini, but you know it's probably the shaken and shaken not stirred is the part that they
57:15
remember. Not what what not the vodka martini martini was made of. Right.
57:21
Well, I don't know. I It's a different Yeah, I'm going to continue my hunt. Not that I go out, but I will see if if
57:27
there's a way to order it. I did ask a Spanish friend and she goes she looked at me like, "I don't know what how you would order that. I don't know. I what?"
57:33
And she's like, "I don't even know what you're talking about. So, I can't even help you try and order it." Well, she's lived all over so she does know the
57:40
drink, but she's like, "I don't know how to order it." I think it would be hard to I mean a
57:46
good I don't drink martinis not my thing at all but I have heard that a really good martini is kind of an art form so
57:52
to try and make somebody do something in that area where they don't know what they're doing and not add the little
57:57
twists or things that are needed to make it good is probably not even worth it you know right maybe I don't know the
58:03
one place that did make it was one of these cocktail bars with the like the with the the bounded menu like a library
58:09
book you know it was the right you like this was their thing. All right, enough of that. We'll we'll figure it out
58:15
another time. Back to back to the drinks they do well. Let's stick with those. Back to the
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drinks they do well. Um and as we explore, we will find more, you know, and you know, hopefully different parts
58:26
of Spain, too. Different parts of Spain, different things. So, that'll expand our knowledge. Well, in July, I'm taking my
58:32
daughters to Sevilla and Granada for a little trip. So when we when we're done with that, we will I will revisit this
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and see if there's something else we have found down there. There you go. Perfect.
58:44
I love it. So there will be more drinks. There'll be more drinks and then we'll find out the foods and and all that
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other stuff. Oh, so good. So excited. I think that's that's this week's episodes
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talking about our little Babas. Do you like your little baby Bevas? I love my babyas.
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Perfect. All right. Well, we will um we would still love any ideas that anybody
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has that anybody wants us to talk about, anything you don't know about Spain that we might be able to fumble our way through. Any corrections or or kudos for
59:17
getting something right, we'd appreciate that, too. Yes, that would be surprising.
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So, until next time. Until next time, or as we say, aso. Um
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or just say it really fast. Aso. Yeah, that's how they say it. There you go.
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