
We are Tania and Gaetano, two expats who moved our families to Spain for new adventures. We both moved here from the US, Tania (originally from the UK) in 2020, with her husband and daughter from Northern Virginia, and Gaetano in 2023 with his two daughters from Los Angeles. We all met in Valencia and got along incredibly well, but while we cracked each other up discussing our fun times adjusting to Spain, there were quite a few eye-rolls from our girls (tweens and teenagers anyone!). In an effort to give our daughters a little break we thought what the heck, let’s share our experiences with unsuspecting strangers instead. This podcast came to life and we hope you enjoy the pitfalls and joys of our experiences - we all have!
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Welcome to Poco Poco. Good morning,
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Tanya.
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Hi. Good morning. Um, today we are going
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to talk about Anthony Gaudy. Very
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exciting. Also known as
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his full name. Do you want me to say his
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full name?
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Do you want to do the full name? I can
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do the full name. I
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I'll try it. Antony Platid GM Gaudi
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Cornet.
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Excellent. Yes. So like a lot of Spanish
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people I think he has a very long name.
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Yes.
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Um but you know affectionately known as
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Anthony Gaudy or just Gaudy as most
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people do.
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Uh a very very very famous Catalan
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Spanish Catalan architect designer and
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I'm sure most of you have as as we have
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seen or at least seen pictures of his
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amazing architecture. But we're going to
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dive in a little bit to his life and how
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he got there and and things like that.
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Yeah. His history. Um he was born in
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1852. So there's a little bit of a
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debate inconsistency as we could say. He
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was born in 1852 either in a town called
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Reyes which is near Terraona
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um in which is just south of Barcelona.
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And that's um his birth certificates and
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documents say he was born in Ryus, but
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apparently
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heated
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thought otherwise.
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He thought otherwise. His grandmother
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must have told him a different story.
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Who knows? But he he he has stated that
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he was born in a town uh named Ryodom. I
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would say that was
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Rudom. Yeah, that sounds I think it's
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very very close. And maybe
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I mean they do birth certificates back
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then and maybe they were just like you
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can only be born in the main town. I
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don't know. So who knows?
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Or he was born in one and raised in the
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other but just considered himself born
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there, right? Who knows?
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Very difficult to know. So that like as
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you all know we're in we're in Valencia.
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If you drive a couple of hours north you
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get to Tarragona Reos and then if you
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drive maybe another hour you get to
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Barcelona. So it's all very he was
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definitely definitely in that area.
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Anyway,
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he's a very Catalonian.
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He definitely is, and they will take
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obviously great credit for for him and
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his works up in Barcelona, which is
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where most of his architecture is. Um,
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we were just up in Ryos, and it's a
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fantastic town. Um, but they I think
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they have a they have a house there, I
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think, that he that he had lived in, but
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other than that, they don't have I mean,
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a lot of his architecture and stuff
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there. like he he moved to Barcelona and
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that's where all of his really famous
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work is.
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Yes. I mean Barcelona is dripping in
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gaudy architecture.
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It really is.
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But Rayus is a lovely town. I highly
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recommend a visit there. Um it was a it
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was a surprising little stop for us and
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we were like, "Oh, this is cool." A
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happening little place. Oh, and we had
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really good ice cream there.
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Oh, I saw you post that on our on our
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reels.
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Yes. It tastes It actually tastes even
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better than it looked.
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Wow. Anyway, off topic as usual.
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Off topic.
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Um, he was the youngest of five children
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and like you said, he was born on the
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25th of June in 1852.
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And
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funnily enough, like I said, he, you
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know, Barcelona was where he moved to,
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but it, not surprisingly, his all of his
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properties and designs and everything
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that he did up there attracts
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20 million visitors to Barcelona each
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year.
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Wow. which is not surprising. I mean
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that is stunning though,
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right? I mean they are I mean they are
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the reasons to go to Barcelona and
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they're and they are everywhere and
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they're awe inspiring. Um what I would
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say is if I could just add this and it's
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almost like they're like they're like
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grown-up sand castles, right? It's just
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like
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they're kind of like freeformed, but
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you've got the shape and you've got like
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all the stuff thrown on and the tiles
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and all of that stuff. So it is very
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it's very whimsical, right? It's very
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whimsical and you can walk by and see
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some of the houses. I will say, you
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know, little bit of a disappointment,
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but I completely understand how it is
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now. It used to be you could just walk
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around the park and and walk around some
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of these places, but now, of course, you
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do need to get tickets to so that they
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can sort of sort of maintain the amount
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of people that are walking through to
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keep it enjoyable for everybody, right?
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Um, and yeah, absolutely stunning. And
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we'll del we'll dive into how he became
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the architect that he is. Um he had
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great pride in his Mediterranean
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heritage and he loved nature. When he
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was 27 he joined something called the
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center excursionista de Cataloonia which
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at the time was an organization that did
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expeditions to explore Catalonia and
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southern France on horseback and on
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foot. So it was obviously that would be
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a big nature kind of experience um at
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that you know for him at that age and
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something that he obviously rather
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enjoyed because nature became a big part
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of the the sort of inspiration for his
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designs.
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Right. Right. And um it it is also known
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that he was he had poor health as a
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child. He had rheumatism and and it it
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it sounds like they put him on a pretty
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weird diet. I mean, who knows what
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medicine was back in the day, but they
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had him on this like vegetarian and like
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and then long fasting um which then like
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led to life-threatening um illnesses. I
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mean, would you want to
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I would imagine I would imagine back
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then they wouldn't have had the
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knowledge to really be a vegetarian
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really successfully and to combine that
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with fasting probably was quite quite
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dangerous but
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rudimentary as they say.
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Yes. In that era. So he was not a
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healthy child and that did in sort of
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have an effect in he as as an adult he
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moved to Barcelona to to study teaching
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in 1868 and he did his compulsory
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military service from 1875 to 1878.
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Okay. and and he he did join the infant
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in infantry regiment but he was
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basically a military administrator but
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even in that capacity he was on sick
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leave like all the time and therefore
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was able to continue his studies. So all
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of that sort of the illnesses that he
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had kept him from also fighting in the
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third carist war which was what would
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have happened during his time in in his
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military career short career that he
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didn't have because he was too sick to
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do anything. So he was basically in the
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military but kind of not in the military
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and carried on studying. So good for us
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because that meant he could continue his
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architectural journey.
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Right. Right. and he had studied at the
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uh Yoja Yo yoja school. I hope I'm
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pronouncing that properly.
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Yo, the no no Yoja. I think we
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pronounced the J. It's Yeah. Yo school.
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Uh and the Barcelona Higher School of
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Architecture and he graduated in 1878.
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He worked as a draftsman for various
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architects to help finance his studies,
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which a job to go through school.
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Yeah. But I think that was interesting
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because you would learn so much as a
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draftsman, right? And it was that was
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something like if you're working doing
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something completely different, but I
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mean being a draftsman was probably
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incredibly boring, but you would have
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learned so much about architecture doing
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that. So to combine
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you learn all the engineering and
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everything. Yeah.
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Yeah. But he in spite of that he was not
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doing very well in his grades. No, he
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wasn't because
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so his he had it the director when he
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gave him the degree basically said we
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have given this academic title either to
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a fool or a genius time will show. So
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they did not have great hope for him at
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that point obviously.
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I guess not. And you know it' be
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interesting to think what the what the
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um what the director thought of his work
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later because it is really not um of
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norm right. It is not it is not
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traditional architecture. So
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it may not considered a genius. Who
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knows? Right. At least the director was
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smart enough to to kind of sort of cover
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his bases, right? And say he's either a
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fool or a genius. We're not quite sure
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yet. So
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right
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as we had said before his his work was
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influenced by his passions of
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architecture and nature and religion and
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he considered all these kind of details
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in his creations and where he combined
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like the crafts like ceramics and
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stained glass and row iron work and you
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know the carpentry of it all right it's
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all kind of like kind of and it's almost
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like kind of thrown together when you
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see there but it's not right but it's it
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like I said like a kids at the sand
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castle, you find the shells and you put
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them on the building and it seems really
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taken.
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It's very Yeah. I mean, if you haven't
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seen any of his work, I mean, it's it
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can be very colorful. It cannot be, but
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I mean, he's using, you know, bits of,
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you know, you know, I'm sure very
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intently placed, you know, tile and
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colorful bits and and it does it looks
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like
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it looks like a really cool imaginary
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drawing actually brought to life like
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that. You couldn't imagine that someone
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could take this drawing and actually
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turn it into a proper piece of
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architecture cuz it's just so different
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and fluid and it kind of reminds me
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a little bit of Salvador Dali in the
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sense that it's just like you have this
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movement and you have this interesting
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completely obscure way of looking at
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something and actually he created it
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with all these elements and he was also
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influenced by neo gothic art and
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oriental techniques. I can see the
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oriental cuz that's kind of what you
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were saying. I think that brings it part
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and and I think it all comes together in
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such a unique way even now. I mean no
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one has done that type of architecture
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really. It didn't even though he became
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part of the modernist movement and
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there's a lot of you know things that
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came from that. No one has really
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created that type of architecture again
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I don't think. Right. And that's I think
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what makes him particularly unique is
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that it didn't it wasn't copied over and
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over again in different places. I think
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not to any real sort of great
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he didn't have a school that was like
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you know the bow house bred mini a copy
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right no one was copying his work right
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and you do see the elements of even like
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art nuvo with the with the swirling
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shapes in his things you know you see
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where he derived his work from but yes
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no one else kind of copied it and went
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with it
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kind of the combination yeah the
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combination of all the things he puts
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together so when you see these buildings
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you'll you I mean in Barcelona has some
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beautiful areas you'll kind of walk and
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you'll be like, "Well, that's a Gaudy
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building obviously," you know, um not
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just because they've lit it up and, you
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know, made it a thing, but they've
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really, you know, really made it. You
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can tell like how different it is and
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and it's, you know, for him all the
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different there's some sort of main
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elements obviously there he was using
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religious symbolism and also some
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traditional Catalan elements in his
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designs that were very unique to what he
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was doing. very nature inspired where he
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would like you were saying the elements
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of the curves and the arches organic
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shapes
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the organic shapes are probably what
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makes it so unique I think one one of
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the things
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and and and the organic shapes and
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speaking of that you have these like
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geological formations right so like if
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you do see the cigrada familia it's like
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stelacttites and stelagmites right like
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that's what the
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absolutely looks like yeah
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and you know and he he loved color right
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so we that, right? And and again,
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speaking of the Sigrada, the way the
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stained glass just lights up the pl, but
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it's not like normal stained glass. It's
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not what you're used to, right? It's
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it's very ealreal. Is that the word I'm
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looking for? I don't know. It's very I
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mean, it is very spiritual in a way,
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heavenly, right?
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Absolutely. And I think those vibrant
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colors and textures even in the
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buildings you'll see and in I mean I the
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place that where I really see that most
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is in the the park. Um, I mean it's just
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the the beautiful mosaics and they are
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they are vibrant and colorful and you
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know they're not just using one color. I
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mean it's all very colorful and exciting
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and so his his way of bringing in these
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elements and they're on sort of all of
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the buildings. I mean it's very very
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interesting.
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Right. Yeah. Agreed.
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It's very and and it's intricate, right?
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Like that's the whole thing. It's it's
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so how do you and it's almost like these
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crushed tiles and yet formed perfectly
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together right
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has done right
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it all comes together really well and
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you know to the point before like it's
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he he liked decoration and architecture
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and putting them together and not seeing
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a separation of those two things. So and
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you can really see that it looks like
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somebody made this beautiful drawing and
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it and it was brought to life. I mean
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that is exactly how it looks I think and
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it and I and it's very unique.
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Agreed. Yeah. I mean and it's not like
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someone Yes. like an architect I've
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designed these walls and this space and
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then you do with what you and I've
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walked away and you do with what what
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you will with it. Right.
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Yeah. Well, and two, you might you might
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see some interesting architecture in
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certain places, like they've they've
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built a building and then the the
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balconies are really pretty or the top
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part of the building is really pity
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pretty, but the rest of it's just a flat
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building or whatever. Like with his
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work, the whole building the whole
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building is a piece of of art. Like
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every single element of it, how the how
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the, you know, how the balcony blends
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into the rest of the building and then
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comes out again and has a nice swish of
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some mosaic in it. I mean, it's just
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very very unique. I would like to
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venture and say that it's not
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architecture but a sculpture.
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I think many people would agree with
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you. In fact, UNESCO would say he has
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seven works that are declared as world
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heritage sites which I think is also
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possibly pretty pretty might might be a
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record might be a world record.
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Um
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for one person I would think so. It's
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more than I have. I don't know about
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you.
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I don't think it would be difficult to
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beat us in this area, but
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So, do you want to read the list and and
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and and go with the pronunciations?
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Let's see how you
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try. Park Park Guell um Palao Palao
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Guwell um Casama Casa Vensn and the
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nativity facade and crypt of the um
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Sigara Familia obviously Casa patio and
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the crypt of the colonial gu.
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I think you did pretty well.
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Did I do all right there?
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I think so.
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And it was seven. How's that?
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It's seven. I'm just going to say
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though, if I could nitpick here, three
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of them are in well, so shouldn't that
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just be one site?
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I it really should, but I suppose each
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of them was designed separately,
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you know. So, I'm just going to say that
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they're different. Like the park we'll
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give him that bone.
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Yeah, the park is a huge like it's our
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own thing, you know. So, he could have
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he could have he could have um you know,
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designed a palace and not done a park or
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vice versa. True. Right. True. don't
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necessarily go together. So, I'm going
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to defend them and him and say yes. In
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fact, he should have more.
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I mean, the the Sagraata Familia is like
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so big. They could have one for each
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little tower maybe, you know.
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Right. Right. And there and there the
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thing we're going to do another Poco
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Poco on the Sagrada. So, you know, stay
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tuned for that. Um, but it is something
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that they are continually working on.
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You know, it had stopped construction
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for a long time, but now there's a
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massive effort to try to get this thing
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finished. Although I think I have a
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feeling people might be a bit
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disappointed if it ever gets finished
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because it's sort of been being built
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for like 150 years or something. So,
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right.
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I mean, it's like do we have to finish
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it? And I don't know. There's always
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something to do if anyone has a house,
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they know that. Just keep building.
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Well, I think that's it. And I hope you
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enjoyed our Poco Poco. And stay tuned
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