
We are Tania and Gaetano, two expats who moved our families to Spain for new adventures. We both moved here from the US, Tania (originally from the UK) in 2020, with her husband and daughter from Northern Virginia, and Gaetano in 2023 with his two daughters from Los Angeles. We all met in Valencia and got along incredibly well, but while we cracked each other up discussing our fun times adjusting to Spain, there were quite a few eye-rolls from our girls (tweens and teenagers anyone!). In an effort to give our daughters a little break we thought what the heck, let’s share our experiences with unsuspecting strangers instead. This podcast came to life and we hope you enjoy the pitfalls and joys of our experiences - we all have!
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Welcome to Aspain Poco Poco. Hey Tanya.
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Hey. How's it going?
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It's going bueno as they say. It's I'm
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Vienn. I am all those things.
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All those things. And a little cooler.
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The weather's dipping down a little,
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which is nice, right?
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It's dipping down. I mean, I will have
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to say two nights ago I was sleeping in
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a pool of sweat because our air
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conditioner's broken. And then last
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night I had the window open and I was
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piling covers on me and then went to my
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closet to get a sweatshirt because I was
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like, whoa, that just changed overnight.
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It It went from 83 at night to what I
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think 58 59 last night.
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No, it it's been delightful. Besides
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your too graphic story there, um it has
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been delightful and I will say we had a
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bit of we had this tiny bit of rain a
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couple of days ago and it was like one
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of those things where it just added to
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the humidity and I was like, "God, this
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is never going to end." And then the
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next day it was this evening and this
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night that you mentioned and I was like,
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"Oh, this is nice. I love it."
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And speaking of cooler things, we're
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going to talk about the Spanish beaches
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in the winter, which is one of my
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favorite things. Well, which is where
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we're headed to. And sadly to say, we
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only went to the beach once at night
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this whole summer. So now we're heading
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into the autumn. And our beach, what I
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want to do at the beach has is ending.
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So I think I have like a week or two to
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before what we're going to talk about
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sets in. And
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well, I was going to say, did you ever
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make You never made it. All those dreams
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and desires, you never made it to a
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beach day. I'm sorry.
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I am pasty white. I am the color that my
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ancestors would be horrified to see that
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I am this this this pale right now.
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Well, I'd say you don't have to go to
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the beach to get a tan, but there's we
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enjoy the beach a lot just for
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activities and hanging out. And I think
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that is maybe something that is a bit
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more accessible to those that live
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outside of the city. Unless you live in
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the very beach side of the Valencian
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city, I think would that be accurate?
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For sure.
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Yeah. Because it's we have to take the
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bus like I'm not going to take a cab
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there, right? You can get a take a cab
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and be there in five 10 minutes, right?
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But I'm not going to spend 15 euros
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there and back all the time.
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That's just crazy. So the bus the bus is
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about 40 minutes. You know, it's a lot
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of stops and you're like and and getting
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there is not the issue. My kids brought
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it up. They're like, "What we don't like
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about it, Dad, is when you take the bus
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back is they get just car sick. They're
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all hot and they're sticky and they're
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gross and the bus is stopping every 5t
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and it's it's like you get like emotion
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sickness. You're like, I just want to be
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home and showered and the end of the
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day, you're done.
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Yeah. You may have drunk a little bit of
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the Mediterranean Sea, which might be
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settling in your belly a little wrong.
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And Yeah, I can see that. Yeah.
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But they do have a good argument. I
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mean, they
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do. But we we love the beach out here.
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We didn't go as much as we wanted, but
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we went a lot. And one of the things
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that we do year year round, they do have
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dog beaches, but in the winter it opens
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up a bit more. So, we can talk a little
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bit about taking your dogs to the beach
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because that's something that I love to
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do once we get into the winter,
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which is that in this part of Spain
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anyway, they
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will open the beaches from sort of maybe
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October to April, April, Mayish, where
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you can take your dog to any of the
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beaches and they can run around. And I
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love that because they do have really
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nice prominards on a lot of the beaches
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here where you can walk your dog up and
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down, you can walk, you can have your
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kids can do a little maybe a little
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roller skating or something. But
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actually taking your dog onto the beach
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obviously is something that is
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prohibited except in certain dog beach
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areas of which there are quite a few.
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So we love the winter because it's just
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there's no one at the beach. It's really
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nice. You can get all dressed up for the
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cold weather and you just go and walk
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your dog down there and you can I mean
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it's it's lovely and for me it's one of
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my favorite things because the beach in
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the sum in the summer is very busy
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obviously and in the winter
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there's nobody there. A lot of the beach
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towns I don't know what it's like in the
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city but a lot of the beach towns where
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we are north of the city there's not
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much there. There's a few restaurants
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maybe but overall it's it's holiday
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homes and holiday apartments. And so in
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the winter it's it's pretty
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um empty and it's really really nice.
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I love it.
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It is like another world. It's like it's
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like what was that TV show the that
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series they did 100 years a you know the
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world without us or something like what
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would happen to the world like it kind
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of gives you that feeling while you're
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there right
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it is really nice and I will say people
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are very good about from my experience
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and I always do pick up after your dog.
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So, please do because other people are
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walking on the beach, people without
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dogs, people with dogs. We don't need
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that on the beach. So, there's trash
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bins everywhere. Pick up after your dog.
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And please bring that etiquette into the
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city, not you, but other people because
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there you will step in dog doodoo in the
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city year round.
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I found that not to be the case so much
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outside of the city, but I don't spend a
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lot of time that. But during the summer
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and during the whole year, there are dog
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beaches. If you have a dog that's very
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social and you wish to have your dog run
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around with other dogs, there are dog
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beaches uh in all sorts of areas around
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here, you can find them online and and
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that's really really fun. They're not
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the best beaches obviously because
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they're the dog beaches. So, they're the
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ones that have more algae and more
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seaweed and more kind of rocks and
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things like that. But they're absolutely
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fine and nice for a dog to run around in
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and for you to go sunbathe in if you
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want to. They're very very acceptable I
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would say. So that's my that's my
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experience with dogs and that's my
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that's my winter one of my winter
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activities
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and that and that and brings you to the
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beach in the winter which is nice right
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and then you still get to see forever
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right you get to see the horizons and
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which is always good for your soul and
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that's what I miss about not going to
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the beach this summer is seeing forever
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right you just
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yeah I think so and I do think also
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there are apps for wind and if you're
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somebody that likes to surf or kite surf
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or any of these things there are apps
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that will give you wind and and wave
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waves and and things like that. And that
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is something that you might want to
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check before heading to the beach in the
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winter because it if it gets windy, it's
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incredibly unpleasant to have sand
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blowing up at you. No, that's not fun.
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Nobody Nobody wants that.
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But if you're on one of those boards
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with the sails, whatever those are
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called,
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kite surfing. Yes. Then you want the
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wind
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and kite boarding. Kite surfing and kite
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boarding, right? Then you want all that.
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Yes. And there are some very, very
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popular kite surfing beaches just north
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of Valencia where I always see them year
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round. It is a very very big activity
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here. So if that's something you love to
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do, that is a legitimate sporting
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activity here as well.
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Amazing. I'm not going to do that. But
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and I do fear that the the water might
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be a little cold for me to go paddle
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boarding. So I do think our paddle
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boarding activities may be done for the
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year because I don't want to fall in it
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and I'm not willing to peel myself into
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a wet suit. So that might be the end of
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that, too.
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So, in the city in the winter, the city
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beaches,
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things don't close down as much as the
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beaches you go to, right? Because it's
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it's the city, so the paella shops and
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all the stuff that's on the beach are
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pretty much opened. I mean, we've gotten
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people have come in February and said,
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"We want paella on the beach." And I'm
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like, "All right, kids, grab your
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scarves." You know, we're going to the
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beach.
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And it's all still all the restaurants
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down there and the shops and everything
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are all still open.
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Everything's open. And but, you know,
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it's a very small, you know, it's that
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small. I mean, we're a small section of
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the beach and it's still lively in the
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city and
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here it is a real neighborhood of the
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city that people live year round, right?
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It's a real It's not It's not a beach
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town.
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Yeah, they're very different. Some part
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of their Yeah, some of the beaches up
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here will have some restaurants that
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might be open. There's like Ket I think
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has a much a much um more robust
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restaurant and area, you know, ice cream
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shops and coffee shops there. And I
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think some of those are open year round
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at a much much shorter amount of time,
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like maybe just on Saturdays and Sundays
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and or something like that. But there
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there is something going on there. But
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most of the other ones, the smaller
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towns, there's nothing going on. And
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that's where these um chenitos come in,
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which was what we have a lot of. And I
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don't know if they put those on the
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beaches at the city, but in our beaches
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up north, you have these little huts
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that pop up in the spring and they get
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broken down in in the fall. And that is
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when you see those coming down, you're
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like, "Yeah, the summer's over." Because
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they are
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the summer's over.
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I know. But there I mean because and
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those are great because in beaches where
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they don't have a lot of restaurants,
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ice cream shops, and things like that,
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these little churingitos come up and
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they have ice cream, coffee, drinks,
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they blast music, and they and they put
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maybe some umbrellas out and stuff, and
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it's like really fun, and it creates a
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really nice atmosphere on these beaches.
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And then it all gets closed down, taken
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away in the in the in the fall.
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Right. We do have those in the city,
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especially in the like the further like
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the Patakona Beach, you'll see them
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there because there's less services
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there and those do pop up. And what I
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think is so crazy about those is when
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you see them closed up, the things like
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no bigger than a porta potty, but when
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they open it up, these walls come down
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and it's suddenly a party. Like there's
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there's they've got everything. They've
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got tables. Yeah. The the lights strung
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about. It's it's it's amazing
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and that is my favorite thing. I mean,
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you've been to the if you go to the
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beach, especially out at out of the city
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at night, these things are open until
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till late at night. So, they're
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4:00 in the morning sometimes.
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So, they're open surfacing with drinks
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and coffee and ice cream for the kids
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and stuff until the middle of the night.
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So, and and just to be clear, they don't
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close up for the winter. They close up
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and go away. I mean, completely
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dismantled, gone, like they never
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existed. And then in the spring you'll
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see them coming in with the boards and
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and starting to build them again. It's
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it's really cool.
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Right. Right. Yeah. I mean it is cool.
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And it is Well, when they're the size of
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the porta potty, it is very easy to just
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haul all them away.
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Well, I'd say I'm not doing it, but I
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theoretically
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And what I love about them is when
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you're at a beach that has a prominade.
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Mhm.
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These are in between the shore and the
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prominade. So, you don't have to walk
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all the way back to the prominade.
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Oh, yeah. No, they're on the beach.
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They're literally on the beach near the
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prominard. So, they're really, really
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convenient. And then speaking of
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portaotties, if you have a beach that's
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not very populated in the winter, they
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if they have public restrooms, which a
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lot of them do,
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sort of away from the beach, those will
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be locked up and closed down most
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likely. Really?
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And also the water stations, which which
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they have here, which I love. So, as
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you're walking off the beach and they
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have these little water stations where
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you can wash your feet and stuff like
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that, they will shut off the water to
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those in the winter as well. So,
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everything is like done.
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Wow.
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Done and out. And that's the
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interesting.
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Well, I mean, it makes sense, I guess,
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because you're not
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No one's doing anything. I mean, there
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are people there are people polar bear
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swimming. I mean, for sure, right? But
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it's not there's not you might get the
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hot day between now and the end of
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November, maybe where everyone's like,
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"Oh my god, we got lucky and it's a hot
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day and and suddenly there's a lot of
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people, but then you're bringing
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everything with you. You're not
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expecting that you're in Guita or
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anything to be there to give you any
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services." So,
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speaking of that last hot day, cuz the
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one thing we have talked about before is
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the weather here in Valencia. And when
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it's hot, it's hot. And when it's cold,
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it's cold. And and they don't they don't
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they don't they don't blend. You don't
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get a random 80 degree day in in
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December like I'm used to it in
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California.
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No, it's not quite like that. Yeah. But
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up at this at this time you will. Yeah.
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Right now you will get a bit of a blend.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Right. We're in that transition
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till mid October where it's comfortable
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and and and still beach days. Yeah. I
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can bristle it, you know, a little bit.
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But, you know, in in the summer, it's
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hot at the beach and the water is
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ridiculously warm. As we've said before,
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it can be just between up to almost 80
12:12
degrees Fahrenheit the water and but in
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the winter it drops to like in the 50s.
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So, the winter it is you are making ice
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cubes. Do you know what?
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That was a surprise to me. I have to say
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before we moved here, I had only been to
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the Mediterranean in the summer and I
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just had this really ridiculous idea
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that the water would be swimmable year
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round. It is not.
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It It's not a ridiculous idea because
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that's exactly what I thought and that's
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why we moved to Spain. That was part of
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the thing of like we're going to be able
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to go to the beach year round and we're
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going to have crystal blue Mediterranean
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waters and it's going to be lovely and
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then I come here and realize it's either
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too hot in the water to be refreshing or
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too cold.
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Right. I mean, it's a very interesting
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combination, but it is it is what it is.
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And some people love it because there,
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like we said before, there are people
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that do polar bear swims and it does get
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cold enough. It's in that kind of
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perfect polar bear swimming
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temperature around January, February.
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So, you I guess I guess if you're a type
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of person, you have it all here,
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right?
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But
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I do find that the sweet spot for
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swimming in the water is September,
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beginning of October and like May and
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into June is the sweet spot where the
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water
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I would agree with that
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is refreshing.
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Yes, definitely. Because you want and
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when you get there's a sweet spot I
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think that happens in the spring which
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is nice where the water's still cold
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enough but the weather's getting hot and
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you're really enjoying the heat coming
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back. Whereas at this time of year,
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we're like, we're so done with the heat
13:41
that we are not like, let's go swimming
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because it's the perfect temperature.
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Whereas in the spring, you're like, oh,
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it's getting we had a really nice hot
13:48
day, but the water's still cold. And
13:50
you're so happy. It's that when that
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happens.
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I have to say, we all woke up this
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morning because of the cold spell, and
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everyone was in a really good mood this
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morning. We all got like sleep and we
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weren't dying. And so, everyone's like,
14:04
"It's happening." I'm like, "We're so
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excited." But like in a month from now,
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I'm going to be complaining that it's
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too cold. So,
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and we will we're just going to complain
14:12
all year round. So, speaking of the
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temperature of the water and being in
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the water, I just also want to point out
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there are no lifeguards in the winter.
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There's no safety flags. So, I think
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that would be expected. I don't think
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anyone would be expecting this to be
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populated with lifeguards all winter,
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but it isn't. So, if you are if you are
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swimming and getting your, you know,
14:31
wets suit on, if you're doing any of
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that in the winter, definitely make sure
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that you have an app that kind of gives
14:37
you some information on the weather and
14:38
the tides and all that type of thing. I
14:41
would imagine some there's some cities
14:43
that have their apps for their beaches,
14:45
but there is an app, and I can't
14:47
remember the name of it, that there is
14:48
an app for people that like to surf. I
14:50
know this is not a super surfing area,
14:52
but we do have little waves and
14:54
sometimes slightly bigger ones. And
14:55
there are people that do like to surf
14:57
here. And there are apps that follow the
14:59
waves and and all of that that you can
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get really good information about all
15:03
sorts of things at the beach. And if
15:04
you're kite surfing, that includes winds
15:07
and everything. And I would imagine if
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you're kite surfing, you're probably not
15:10
that worried about your safety because
15:12
that is a very dangerous sport, I think.
15:14
But you probably still want you probably
15:17
still don't want to die. So you can
15:18
check winds and all these sorts of
15:19
things on these apps and take care of
15:21
yourself,
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right?
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There's no lifeguards there for you.
15:26
Bring a friend,
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right? What I also think is interesting
15:31
about the beaches in winter, I mean, I
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think this happens everywhere, but it is
15:35
it is fun to see when you do get down
15:37
there that the winter time is the time
15:39
to replenish it for the next summer,
15:41
right? Because the erosion of the beach,
15:44
you know, the the sand goes away, the
15:46
trash can. So this is the time they are
15:48
finding they're sourcing sand from
15:50
around the world. And which I thought
15:52
was weird is that they're even getting
15:53
it from the Sahara Desert. They're
15:55
bringing it in and
15:56
they're bringing it from everywhere.
15:57
Yeah. And it is it's the spring when
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they actually start to bring that. So
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that's something that when you get to
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kind of the spring time and you start
16:05
seeing the new sand coming in and
16:06
they're they're raking the beaches and
16:08
putting the new sand on. That's when you
16:10
start feeling like ah the the summer is
16:12
coming. Right.
16:14
Right. So that's kind of an indication
16:15
of that because you will start to see
16:17
some of these beaches that you went to
16:19
in the summer and you they were like
16:20
these beautiful sandy beaches suddenly
16:23
have a few more rocks on them in the
16:25
winter and you're like what is going on?
16:26
How did this beach change? And it's not
16:28
turning into like a rocky beach but it's
16:30
suddenly got more rocks and it's like
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where did they come from? Are people
16:33
throwing rocks on the beach? know the
16:34
the sand is just blowing out and getting
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drifted out into sea and the the waves
16:39
are coming up and getting it and they do
16:40
replenish a lot of the beaches and some
16:43
of the beaches I think like in Barcelona
16:45
were not even beaches they were
16:47
completely manade right
16:49
yeah that was completely man-made for
16:50
the Olympics and now they like spend
16:52
millions every year and I think there's
16:53
even like a protest movement because
16:55
people are like you're wasting our funds
16:56
on something that we never had in the
16:57
first place but yet other Barcelonians
16:59
are like but we love having a beach
17:00
but we love having a beach so why
17:02
wouldn't you want a beach I can't
17:03
imagine that want that debate will ever
17:05
be finalized.
17:06
No.
17:06
But yeah, I mean they bring sand from
17:08
all different places, different
17:10
countries. They they do seabed dredging
17:13
for it, construction sites for reusable
17:15
sand, quaries, rivers, and then also
17:18
like you said, importing sand from other
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countries. And theoretically, I don't
17:23
know if the tides take that sand back to
17:25
those countries and then they pick it up
17:27
again and bring it back. I'm not sure
17:29
exactly what's happening, but
17:30
wait, didn't I remember sitting with
17:32
Jawad and he was trying to have some
17:33
Moroccan pride moment and he was like,
17:35
"All that sand's from Morocco. You come
17:38
every year and you take it from our
17:40
shore and bring it back to yours and we
17:41
take it back through the winter."
17:42
Through the winter, probably. I think I
17:44
mean I think it's definitely a it's an
17:46
agreement that everybody has and it's
17:48
beautiful sand that comes. So, let's
17:50
just say since it's such beautiful sand,
17:51
I'm sure it does come from Morocco.
17:53
It it is be it is like powder. It's like
17:56
powdered sugar. It's I do I do love it.
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And to be clear, they're not putting
18:02
sand on rocky beaches. I mean, there are
18:04
rocky beaches that people love and they
18:06
go to the rocky beaches, but there are
18:08
sandy beaches that just need a little
18:10
extra love and that's where this extra
18:12
sand gets put on top.
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Agreed. Well, I think that wraps up our
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beaches of winter. What do you think, D?
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I think it does. I'm very excited to get
18:19
down there and enjoy it in the cooler
18:20
weather. So, until our next praco.
18:23
Until then, actually, until our next
18:25
long episode as well.
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