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Welcome to a Spain. Hola. How are you doing today? Gayano. I am I am bueno.
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Bueno. Bueno. Bueno. Do you have an a Spain today?
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I think we both have an ah Spain today. It it we have we have fully enscconced
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ourselves in the in the Spanish lifestyle in the mñana mñana way. Well,
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we're kind of proud of ourselves, but also not because this was a bit of a a bit of an oopsies and oopsies for a couple episodes now. And
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we are truly sorry to our fans, Carmen and Mark, who have reached out to us and
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and and and given us many ideas for shows and asked us questions and they've been so great and we're like, "Oh, we're
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going to give you a shout out on our episodes." And well, Mñana turned into Minana.
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Yeah. So, thank you very much for it. And um so we're going to dedicate this one to them. This idea we're going to
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talk about Spanish homes and apartments in general. But um also just thanks to everybody that's listening because our
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numbers have been going up and we're like super proud and excited that everyone's listening and thank you. And
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if you do have ideas like Carmen and Mark had, please send them and we will try not to be mñana mñana about it.
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Exactly. But you know what, Tanya? I have to say this episode is befitting for Carmen and Mark because they did
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just get their NLVs and they will be arriving soon. And today we're going to talk about what to expect when you move
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into a Spanish home and we hope that they don't cancel their tickets.
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I don't think they will. Good and bad. We're going to talk a little bit about everything. So,
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is it bad though or is it just the way it is? Because I don't find these things
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actually bad. They're just different than what I've been used to. No, I think in any country it's good and bad. So, I mean, I think everywhere
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there's things when you move into a new apartment or a new house that are going to be a challenge. And I don't think
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it's any different here. And it's just that I think sometimes when you move into a new country, um maybe you don't
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know how to deal with some of that stuff. It's not, you know, and I think that's more the issue because none of none of it's crazy. It's just like this
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is kind of how it is. And we're going to talk a little bit about the differences and and what to expect. Um, and I think
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the stress is has more to do with the unexpected things and then not knowing
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how to deal with things. And I think to that end, you know, when people move, just, you know, reach out to reach out to other
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experts, reach out to your neighbors, and, you know, get help on things because it's nothing crazy, right? And there's the things that don't
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make sense until they do, right? You live here long enough and you're
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like, "That totally makes sense. Why did we do it any other way?" I mean to start I look at how buildings are built here
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and when and when we first moved you can you know I mean in America anyway I mean
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they build houses in like 3 seconds right and it's all made of wood and and it's very quick and they're not
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really built to last. And when we moved here, I did notice that all the houses that were under constructions in the areas that we were sort of driving
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around outside of the city, concrete blocks, that's where they're starting, just concrete and concrete. And you're
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like, in some ways it looks old-fashioned, and it is because it's better. And it and it's it takes a lot
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longer. It takes, you know, obviously it takes um people that are talented in those in those areas to build them
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properly, but when you have a house that's made out of concrete like that, I mean, there's issues with it, but mostly
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it's really nice that it's not made of wood. I will say for the most part, I'm going to go with that. Exactly. It's not It's not made of wood,
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but also if you um because it's made out of stone, um if you want to renovate and and move down, move a wall, move a room,
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sometimes not possible, right? Well, and I will say, I mean, so we have we have a a big old house that
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was built in the 80s. Um, very very traditional build. Um, very traditional Spanish look and everything. And when we
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moved in, I was like, "Yeah, let's hang some stuff on the wall." And then after the first couple of goes, I hung the
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necessities on the wall. And then I was like, "I'm not doing this anymore." Like, I'm just not. And then Zena wanted to move rooms, which is fine. She wanted
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a different room. and we are very fortunate and we have different rooms for her to pick from. So she picked another room and she's like I want this
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stuff on the wall. I'm like no it's not happening like can you just like can we
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just paint the walls like a color or with a pattern or something because I putting a nail into concrete I mean you
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need all the right equipment. I know it's not the hardest thing in the world but for me it's a lot of work and I just concrete and plaster is a big thing
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here. So, the place that we live in now, you that we're renting was a gut renovation of an old apartment. So, we
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actually have drywall on our walls. And many of friends have been jealous of me. They're like, "What do you mean you just
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used a little nail to hang all your all your artwork?" Cuz we have a lot of artwork that I hung. It's just a little
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nail. And my uh one of my dear friends was like, I had to have this drill bit
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and anchors and all this stuff. And and then she told me that she just ended up getting those like velcro sticky things
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that you put one side on the back of the picture, the other side on the wall and hope it doesn't get too humid.
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So, I mean, I'm very jealous of your of your painting hanging situation because I don't know I don't know how thick your
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drywall is, but obviously thick enough to put a nail in, so that's good. Um, but we also have because it's an old
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house, it's not it's not the popcorn, but it has a texture. the walls have a little bit of a texture
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and that kind of also a little bit prohibits you doing that sticky stuff too. So,
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you know, for us to renovate our house into a way that would make it easy to put things on the wall without getting
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somebody in with the proper drill bit and D and a lot of planning. We would
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have to repaint and re I mean it would just Yeah, it's too much and so we we paint.
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And I think it should be noted that you brought up the texture of your wall. That's a very common thing here that
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they must have been doing a lot in the 70s and ' 80s and even '9s. And um I
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personally don't like it either. Like it's it's it's hard. You can't paint it. It's just it's a whole thing. But it is
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very common here. And there is a word for it. So someone please tell us the word. It starts I think it starts with a G like something. I don't know.
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Let's not guess. Let's guess. Well, there is a thing. There is a thing
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for it. Yeah. No, I mean it's definitely a look. We also we do have on the outside of the house more of what you would probably
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like a I think they um I think they mix like gravel with um concrete and kind of
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throw that on the wall and that's how they they sort of create the texture that's on the outside of the house too. So in order to fix that we would have to
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have someone come in and scrape the whole thing down and then I mean so it's that's a big project. So I don't mind it so much on the outside of the house
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except that it is going to be a big deal to repaint. Um, but on the inside of the house, it does make it difficult to to
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hang things. And I have hung some things and I've succeeded, but it's taken me an hour or two to hang and make a hole. And
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it's like this is not how I want to spend my day. So, it kind of things don't get done, right? But the benefit of the concrete, I will
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say this was my the one thing that I love is that I had I didn't realize how much anxiety I had um at the beginning
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of having a wood house and water. I didn't realize how much I was always like concerned about that because we we
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got a new washer. It got plugged in but it got plugged in incorrectly and the the water was running not into the
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kitchen but into between the wall I guess. Right. It wasn't going out and it it wasn't inside and it wasn't outside.
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So it was somewhere in between. Right. So in an American house or probably a British house I would have been
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completely freaking out about that. Like I clearly it's now sitting there's a pool of water sitting
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somewhere inside the house being soaked up by all the wood, right? Obviously. And I So when the guy comes to fix it
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and I'm and I'm just like freaking out. I'm like, "What about the what about the water?" And he's like, "It's gone." I'm like, "What do you mean it's gone?" And
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I And he's like, "It's gone. Like this it's it's away. It's in the Mediterranean."
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And I'm like, "What do you mean?" I just didn't connect. And then I realized that he's like, "The whole house is concrete.
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it's going to just disappear. There's nothing to ruin with it. And I'm like, this is crazy. There is nothing to ruin
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in this house because it's all made of it's made of tile and concrete. And I'm like, I love this. I love it. Love it.
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Love it. It It won't warp it. It doesn't make it immune from things like mold. What they
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call the damp here, right? I love it. Like the house has got the damp, but it does protect it from rotting and
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termites and all those other things. There's a lot of things you're not getting because of it. Now, that's not to say that they're not sort of I mean,
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they are quickly building houses here. I mean, so on in the suburbs, you can get
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modular houses, but those are still made out of some kind of concrete. I think pre-formed concrete and walls and things
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that they then kind of metal, I think, probably a lot of metal. You're right. So, they can quickly build
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things in ways that still don't include a lot of wood. So, I think all in all,
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um, it's it's definitely I I would consider that a bonus personally. Yes, for sure. I think so. Yeah. Um, I I I'll side
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note, I have a friend who's renovating a house and they're doing a lot of like wood construction cuz they're from
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America and he said the builders looked at him like he was crazy and he was like, "Just do it." They're like, "Why are you building this wall out of wood?
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Why are we doing this again?" Yeah. And we had I remember when we were looking I mean there just wasn't a lot
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available when we were looking cuz we were looking in like 2021 and people were still not really doing showings
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sometimes dependent on people's attitude towards co whether they were even letting people into houses it was all very difficult and there was this one
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house that was super cute and it was like this little like Swiss chalet right like wood wood and I remember like
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sending that to the to the real estate agent and he just texted me back me back and he just said no
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and I'm like what do you I know. It's so cute. He's like, "It's all made of wood." And I think I don't think it's
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just that I mean, maybe there's something to do with the temperature and the humidity here as well that maybe it's not just it's not just that all
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these things we just talked about that are bad about wood. It's also I mean it's it's just the climate maybe as
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well. So, I'm not saying don't go buy a house made out of wood or don't make your house out of wood, but I personally
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wouldn't. Well, I mean, it is very humid here, so you don't really want a humid house in wood. And it's hot, so the
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concrete does retain the coolness for you. Um, you know, it does it helps with that.
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And I do love having like the tile the tile floor because, you know, for the
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for cleanliness and also for the heat. I mean, it's it is hot here. I hate to argue today with you about the humidity
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because I I we usually argue about the humidity, but it is actually raining and hot today. So, it it feels like a swamp
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right now, but that's because it is actually raining and actually hot, but not because Anyway, so yes, today is
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horribly disgusting. It's humid here, too, ladies and gentlemen. It is. It is. our dog will just lay on the tile and
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it's a great place for your pets to cool as well um if they don't you know if you don't have air conditioning and and and
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things in your house and that's very common in the city too. Most of these apartments you'll find
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either some sort of marble terratzo granity tile type floor. Tile not as I
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mean tile is not how an American would think it. Tile is these just big slabs of granite, marble, whatever they're
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using. Wood floors are not that common. They you will see a lot of the that kind
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of the I don't want to say lenolium, but that kind of fake wood they'll put over I think I've seen that a lot in
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renovations too where they'll put that over the marble cuz the marble might have been like some red marble that they
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did in the 70s. That's Yeah. And that might be that might be like that plastic wood which actually it
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can look really good and it's also much easier to maintain and also you don't have the issue if something leaks that
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it's your your wood um it's not is not ruined. So, I think some of that stuff
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is is will last a lot longer and and can look really good, actually. Um, but we
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have tile. We have tile all over the house. Everything's tile. The baseboards are tile. Um, and and I like that for
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it's really easy to clean. Actually, if I just cuz we have four cats and a dog, if I just open all the doors, it just
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blows it all out. Even have to vacuum. I'm like, great.
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All the dust bunnies are at one corner. Just get a bag. And I love it. No, it's great. And and the same thing happens in the garden. We we
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have this sort of vortex area where it seems like like the wind is sort of gardening for us and it just sweeps it
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all into several corners and we can just go in there and sweep it up. So that's also quite nice. Lovely.
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That's the wind, not the house. One thing about living in the city, we're talking about these apartments.
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What I what I found strange um when I first arrived, it's still a little strange to me, they love a hallway. So,
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you'll find in the city in these apartments, you'll open the door, there'll be an entrance way, and then
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there's a very long hallway. I mean, I think our hallway is close to 50, if not
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more feet long. And but you need that, don't you need that to put all the rooms off of it? I mean,
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if how I don't know how else you would rearrange it. Well, I mean, and ours is a redo. So,
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our apartment is actually backwards the way it should because in most apartments, um, you'll walk in and
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there'll be the bedrooms right away and the the living room will be far away from the front door. They're not always
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right by. It's not how like you're used to, right? It kind of depends where the apartment is laid out in the building
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and what the views are. Um but um so yes, you need these long hallways, but I
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also look at I'm like, couldn't they have configured this in a different way where maybe the flow was was a little
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bit different because I'm that's a lot of square footage wasted on on our hallways. Yeah. Um
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it's nice though. It is does. It's nice. No, it is nice. I mean, I'm not complaining. It's just odd because like
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in America, when you walk into someone's apartment, you usually walk right into their living room and dining room. you see the kitchen and then the the
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bedrooms tend to be tucked off to the side. I would I would say that the that overall what I've noticed is that you
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know in America and I think that the issue is is that in America they've been doing the open plan and and that sort of
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design for a lot longer than they have over here. So even something that's sort of 20 years old here is still going to
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have that kind of 80s that 70s8s flow that that an American house might have
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where the kitchen is its own room and it's not open plan and that type of thing. And I think the apartment
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buildings the each apartment is given more of a square than a than a long rectangle. And I think a lot of the
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apartments here are long rectangles like you have. There are lo there are log rectangles because what you'll find in
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apartments even in the new build is the apartments are floorth throughs so to
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increase air flow to less reliant on air conditioning and all that stuff you need it no matter what but it allows breeze
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and all that come to come through so you know apartments have a front and a back window and even in these like highrises
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they'll have four or five elevator banks because there's two apartments per elevator per floor even though there
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might be 10 apartments or 20 apartments on that floor. You can't access access each of those apartments. You have to go
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downstairs, walk over to the other elevator rink, and then go back up. If you want to if you want to if the if the
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neighbor is knocking too hard on one of your walls if they're if they're not on your elevator ring, you got to go down
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and come back up and then be like, "Is this the apartment that's next to me?" Oh my god, that's so funny. Yes, I've
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seen that in some of the bigger apartment buildings when I've gone to see a friend and it's like, "Oh, you" and it's like, "Make sure you go to
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elevator B." And I'm like, "What?" And then I realized, yeah, they've got the building has a bunch of elevator
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situations. Yeah. But I think the overall like I mean our house again was built in the 80s, so we
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still have a layout here where the kitchen has its own room. Um, you know, and it's not an open plan, but we do
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have a lot of living space and the rest of the space is is is very nice for for
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sort of light and all and all these things, but it's, you know, that is still kind of oldish.
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And I have to say, I love the traditional Spanish plan. I love having a separate kitchen. I love having
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separate rooms. I love having the doors to the room. And I think that's also a heating, air conditioning issue as well.
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Um, but I like that the these rooms serve their purpose. I'm not a fan of the open concept because I don't want to
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look at my dishes while I'm watching TV. I want to be able to focus that I don't have things I have to get done.
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Yeah, that's true. I will say though that if you do cook all your meals, which you do as well, I think um you do
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spend a lot of time in the kitchen and then you can't have somebody, especially with kids, I I think an I say I think an
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open plan is nice if you've got enough other rooms for people to get their own space. Like if you have a den as well and and things like that, then I think
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an open plan can work. Um, but if that living room is your only living space,
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and I I agree with you, because then that living space is just constantly being bothered by the kitchen and visually and noise-wise and everything,
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right? And the way they had them laid out, even the the kitchens are smaller here, but they always have room. They
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always find room for at least a twoerson table, right? So, there is this kind of like function of like the there's still
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an eat-in kitchen because a lot of stuff's happening there. You might have what in the apartments in the city they have what they call the gallery which is
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most of the times off the kitchen which is where your washer washing machine would be because at a lot of apartments
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it's not in the actual apartment. You'll find them in the kitchens but you'll find them also in this thing called the
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gallery which is this kind of outdoor balcony spaces where the washing machine is. You hang your clothes from there but
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it's not inside. But if you're doing laundry and cooking you got to sit down at the kitchen table. Right.
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Yeah. And I think I think the other thing that they've adjusted recently with the with the new with the new
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models is bigger um bedrooms. I mean we have we have enough bedrooms in our house for a for like a 10 person family,
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but they still one of the bedrooms a wall was added into it with a door to
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add another room, you know. So that it was like so we we have this one bedroom that's really bizarre where you go in
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the front of you go in through the door to the bedroom and then there's another door to like you know another room and
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which is kind of cool but it's also it's kind of like the princess suite. I've been there. It's like a suite for a
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little princess. She has a she has a receiving room. Exactly. It is nice when we have people
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to stay that have small kids and they can have this on suite room. But again, from a family point of view of a regular
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thing, it's not it's not very practical and that wall is not really necessary, but they do love to make more more
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rooms, you know, more bedrooms here. Well, if you're staying at home until you're into your 30s, you need enough
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room. That's true. Yeah. and especially in the city in the apartments here and well I
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mean I think in the in the in the country too because I've looked at houses and town homes you know they'll have a nice a relatively nicesized
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bedroom for the primary room but a lot of them look like single dorm rooms from a university it's enough for a twin bed
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and a desk and a and an armmoire type if or a building if you're lucky I've seen that literally
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a bed will fit in them that's it you better have your clothes in another room or hanging from the
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ceiling or something like maybe it's designed for the toddler in the house, you know, or something. Um, and and the
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layout, I mean, but I think this is anywhere other than more modern places where the layout can be funny. We looked
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at a house where it was like the living room and then you went through a hallway with all the bedrooms and bathrooms off
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it and then the kitchen was on the other side of that. So, no one's going to sleep when some when someone's kitchen
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someone's in the kitchen or in the living room because the two things are disconnected by the bedrooms like a horrible layout, right? Um, so that I've
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seen some weird stuff because, you know, some of these some of those houses are kind of old, but I think with the modern
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with the modern houses and if you were to buy um a new apartment that's I mean
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that one of the options here is to buy an apartment or a house that's sort of in the process of being built from the
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developer. That's quite a common thing to do. I think that's awesome because you get to you do get to um pick how
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certain things are done but it's also a huge risk because the house or the apartment is not built yet. So if something goes wrong like I think during
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co a lot of things with um with delivery and expense the the cost of things went
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up it messed up a lot of things in that area. So it's a risk but it's also can
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be a nice luxury you know but you have to take on the risk for sure if that's the case. um
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because I think they're also relying on the the down payments from these people to ensure that they can get the money to
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finish the building and all of that stuff. So, it's it can be risky. It's what you don't find here like you find
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in America is like a track home community where they've they've already got the plan to build 40 homes and
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they're just looking for buyers. Like they're already in the in that kind of process. You don't see track homes here like you do things out of wood.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you mean like they they have the whole they have the land and they're just going to start building all the houses,
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right? But it's like you got three floor Yeah. like the three floor plans to choose from and they're just going to get out 50 homes.
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Yeah. They have communities that they're building. Absolutely. And you can, you know, they they haven't built them yet.
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So, you've got to pick your layout, pick your pick the kind of finishes you want. They'll have levels of like expending
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like how much you want to spend on all the things. And then, but then but then they have to build it. So that this is
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exactly what I was talking about, which is these place these these houses that aren't built yet, but that you buy and
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obviously you get them at a at a little bit of a discount because they're not built yet. So theoretically, as soon as your house is built, it will cost it
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will you it will cost more than what you paid for it a little bit, right? That's kind of what you're buying into. Um, but
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it's not built, so you risk it never being built if if it's if something were to happen with the economy or something.
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But they're also doing that with like town homes and smaller apartment buildings where it's not even built and
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people are already putting deposits. Yeah. Which you don't see as much of in the states. They kind of already got
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financing to build it and then they're looking for people to come in. Now, whether it gets finished is a different story. Um
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but I don't know. It's I'm all scared by all of it. I haven't I haven't dipped my toes into purchasing yet. And we will
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have an interview with a real estate expert to to hold our hands for that. I
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know you've done [Music]
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No, I think um so I think the other thing to touch on is is water. We've we've touched on this a little bit in
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other um uh episodes, I think, but since we're talking about houses, um the water
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here is very very hard. So that means it has a lot of minerals in it. And there's
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you can get a water filter very easily to if you're in a house to put on your, you know, to put on the the the pipe
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that's coming in and then you soften it with salt. Um and there are other ways to do it. We we started with one where
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it was a magnet sort of system. Um Okay. Yeah, it was really interesting and I
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thought this is going to be great, but it actually So you have a water softener in your house? Yes. and it's with its magnet thing, but
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I have to say I'm going to be honest, it doesn't work nearly as well as a salt one. So, I think
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okay, you were to move and have another house, I would go for a salt one. The salt one makes you feel like you will never wash
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the soap off of your body, right? Growing up, we had one of those and
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you're like, I'm just slimy. I'm just slimy and I can't get a lather, right? I'm not getting a lather and it's not
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washing off. Yes. Yeah. But I mean, but it does work and obviously you have to keep putting salt in. So that's an expense and all that,
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but it's but it works. And then um but that's obviously good for if you don't
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have anything. Um the mag the magnet one has diminished a little bit the the calcium deposits on the on the taps and
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stuff, but not not enough that I would do it again. And then we have a
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um also the drinking water. So that's another filter that we have. Um, and
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that one we wanted the reverse osmosis because that's what takes out the nitrates, which is the problem that we
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have here in this area because of the farming, I believe. That's why I don't think this is something that doesn't happen in other places, but it's the
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first I've heard of it any place I've lived. Um, so we have a reverse osmosis and that you can put in an apartment, in a
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house. I mean, it's it takes up quite a bit of room, but it is feasible to put anywhere, I think. Right. But usually that's done in like a
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one focal point, right? It's like the kitchen sink. It's not for That's just for drinking. Yeah. I mean, we don't have it also attached to the
24:50
shower and that type of thing. You can I in fact, back when I lived in DC, we had a shower filter that you can I mean,
24:56
those are pretty easy to obtain and add on just to the shower head. So, you get a special shower head that has a filter
25:02
inside of it and that takes care of what you need for your hair and stuff. Um,
25:07
and so I mean that that's all the things that we have in the house and it all it all works pretty well, I think. So,
25:13
a lot more than me. I got a Brit in the fridge and I'm calling it a day. You know, that's So, you are not filtering out the
25:19
nitrates. Nope. Nope. You know, I just glow in the dark at night. Oh, well, that's the way
25:25
it is. And this is why you will see little old ladies and everybody buying these
25:30
massive bottles of water and in the store and you're like, what is everybody doing? I mean, they're buying the filtered water to to to get because they
25:37
don't want to put a filter in their in their house. and and we would just after a couple of months we were like, "Oh my
25:43
god, if we have to carry these bottles of water for the rest of our life, this isn't worth it."
25:49
I've seen a I've seen a lot of expats with these I think it's Berkeley filters. Have you seen those big like
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they're it's a huge apparatus of metal that is it's they're very expensive and
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I haven't used one yet but my friends swear by them and it's some sort of thing and you buy this filter like once
26:10
very rarely and it filters the water. They have them on their counters. It's this big stick. It goes on the counter or it fits under
26:16
the sink? No, it goes on the counter like you pour the water into it and then and then you know
26:21
Okay. push the button to get your water out. You know, it looks like a like a sparklets thing, but it's this big aluminum or metal st probably stainless
26:28
steel, probably not aluminum stainless steel thing, and I don't really quite understand it, but it's like a big camper thing, too. I think I think pe
26:34
rural people use it. I don't know, but I I looked in it, but I'm not investing in it. No. Right. No, I mean, Berkeley, if you
26:41
want to send us one or two. We will try it for you. We'll try it. I have not heard of that, but definitely
26:47
worth looking. the thing that the the with the um research that I did it was the nitrates that you want taken out and
26:54
that is what doesn't really come out in a regular filter. I will say without filtering or anything our waters tastes
26:59
amazing here. There is nothing wrong with the taste of the water. It's clear it's beautiful but this is all just like
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the nitty-gritty things you know. Um but it's that has nothing to do with like the taste of the water. I think it
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tastes really really good here. I would say something else that is um kind of
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odd about moving here and seeing the the neighborhoods um that you might not be
27:25
used to in the states is there's no curb appeal, right? Especially when you go into the in the in the suburbs in the
27:30
urbanizations like there's walls around all these houses and it's a little offputting. When we first visited a few
27:36
years ago and we were driving around all these different neighborhoods and I was like is it is it not safe here? And she
27:43
was like, "Oh, no. This is one of the best neighborhoods." I'm like, "Are you sure?" Cuz I don't I see roofs. I see
27:48
walls and roofs. I don't see anything and bars and green mesh barriers,
27:54
right? You've got bars and then Well, I mean, that's if you can even see the house. I
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mean, for the most part, you just see walls and you're driving around and it's and you can't really see the houses and
28:05
it's you really I say I had the same thing when we first moved and we were looking around. I was like, is this did we make the wrong decision? Did we move
28:11
to some place that's really unsafe? Because there's massive walls and bars everywhere if you're looking at houses.
28:18
And it is just how they do things here. And I think I did hear this thing that
28:24
the bars had initially had to do with insurance. I don't know if that's really true, but it was one of these things
28:30
where you could that you couldn't get insurance or your insurance was less if you had bars on your windows. And this but this was from many many many many
28:36
years ago. So, I've heard I mean I've did my own research because when I was what I heard what I researched was
28:43
because I was looking on the ideal list of back on the couch in Los Angeles and saying why are all these bars on the windows? Did a little research. They've
28:50
been around forever because it's forever. It's because it's a safety thing. So, while you were working in the
28:56
fields, you could leave all your windows open to air out the house without some random animal coming in or person coming
29:03
in and taking things. But you could leave your house open in the town and go out and work the fields and know
29:09
everything was safe and your aunt your dog wasn't getting out and a dog wasn't coming in. Um I'm sure there's probably
29:14
some insurance thing to it as well now because we live in a hostile world. So I'm sure they they probably
29:20
No, I feel like the I feel like the insurance thing was from like the 80s and it just never got like the the
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situation of how houses were built and things never got never got renewed. But I I like I like what you said. I mean
29:31
that kind of makes sense. It is hot here. you want you don't want to close up your house and leave and if you're going to be gone the whole day you're
29:37
going to come back your house is going to be a freaking urban so I I love that idea and I will say you know from living
29:45
in a house with bors I I it doesn't bother you and it's it is quite nice and I think you do want I think that
29:51
security is nice even though I don't feel at all unsafe here um right and the and the and the way the gardens are like
29:58
the walls give you privacy so you know that's it's not like American where you have a house
30:03
and a and a front yard and anyone can just walk up to your front door. I mean, it's just not like that. There is a there is a, you know, a gate and a wall
30:11
protecting your whole garden area. So, that means your whole garden area front and back is private, which is nice,
30:17
right? As well, it's it's wonderful and it's it it is it kind of it's a weird dichotomy here,
30:23
right? This is such a social such a social people, right? They are out and they're they have fiestas and
30:30
they're out in the town center, but when they get home, they want their privacy. It's like they so
30:36
from your neighbors too. It's like you don't want this this idea of sitting outside of your own house and chatting
30:42
with neighbors like that are walking by does not happen. The only way to get that is to take a walk in your community
30:48
and walk your dog or take a walk, you know, go around with your kids. Then you will stop and talk to all your neighbors
30:54
and it's very chatty. You don't go just up to someone's house and like hey like that is not a thing.
31:02
I mean maybe with your direct neighbor but even then I mean you know we'll we'll have some you know it it's just
31:08
it's very different and it is funny because you think of the Spanish and they are very very very social um people
31:14
generally. So I think it is quite funny. Yeah. But I like it. You know it does make
31:19
everything that your whole garden is is private which I think is kind of nice. And speaking of gardens, um the one
31:25
thing that took me a little while to get used to is the fake grass. Okay, which is another thing that makes things
31:32
look weird, I think, when you come from England or America, I think, because it's just not that common to use fake
31:38
grass. It might becoming a bit more common in certain areas, but it's like, you know, it's weird. You have these
31:45
beautiful houses and then fake grass, and you're like, why did you put fake grass next to this beautiful house? And
31:50
then now that we've lived here for some time and we have grass and I'm like,
31:55
"God, I wish I wish it was fake grass, like you start getting used to it and
32:01
start looking at it differently." And I look at it, it's completely a nice thing for me now. I'm like, "Oh, that would be
32:07
really nice to have." Right. Well, we're from, you know, from the southwest, LA, and I grew up in
32:13
Vegas, so fake grasses has has become quite the thing, especially during the droughts and all of that. But I do
32:19
prefer some real grass now. I don't want to mow it and that's why I live in an apartment. But well, you don't want to mow it and you
32:24
also don't want to water it. So I mean in this climate, this is this is LA climate more or less, right? So yeah, if
32:31
you're coming from England, you don't have to water it. You do still have to mow it, but you don't have to water it. Well, right now you might, but generally
32:37
speaking, and here if you have grass, it will be requiring a lot of water to maintain it,
32:42
right? Yeah. So it's a lot of both maintenance and mowing. So, I would say the fake grass is nice, but each to their own,
32:51
you know. It's each to their own. Yes. I haven't been faced with that problem yet. So,
32:56
right. Oh my goodness. Yeah. And I I do want to
33:02
I do want to It's not that different here, but I do want to kind of just quickly since we were talking about
33:07
water um talk about the showers. Um we talked about the filter. No
33:13
problem. We have um a continuous water heater which I always dreamed of.
33:20
I thought that was the greatest thing because if you have a family sometimes you have to wait if you have a water
33:25
heater. We are all now kind. I would be happy to wait to not have a
33:30
continuous water heater. And maybe I I when you go around like Leroy Merlin, the hardware store, they have these
33:37
little ones that you can put next to the shower. And I was always like, why do they have a whole section of shower continuous water heaters? And I was
33:44
like, okay. Like little minis. And they've got like a woman in the shower and she's super happy. And I'm like, why do they
33:50
have that? And then when we moved into this house, I know why they have that. Because if you have a continuous water heater on the other side of the house
33:56
from your bathroom, Uhhuh. it's not powering a shower all the way upstairs on the
34:03
other side of the house continuously perfectly because with the continuous water heater, it needs to get a message
34:09
that it needs to make hot water. And if you want like a very lukewarm shower,
34:15
there's a bit of a disconnect in the flow of water. And there is a point where it stops producing hot water
34:20
because it's like, "Oh, you don't need it." Like, you put it down so low that you don't want it. And I have messed with all the little settings on that
34:27
thing and I feel like I've got it at the most sensitive that it's possible. And we still run into that problem. So, I am
34:32
like two steps away from Leroy Merlin and buying my little cute little shower
34:38
continuous water heater to stick on the wall there. Um, I think you should. I think you
34:44
should. I think you should be happy. We have Yes, you have one life to live. You might as well make it a happy one,
34:51
right? The the other thing that they have here in all the houses, well, I think most
34:57
houses and in all the apartments, which I adore are the the blackout shutters,
35:03
right, to keep the light out and it's like they're like hurricane shutters that you would find in Florida, but they
35:10
will, you know, black out to keep the house cool. So, if you're gone all day, you put those down and your h your house
35:15
may be stuffy, but it won't be as hot knowing there's this hot sun beating into your your house all day.
35:21
Yeah. And to be clear, but the thing is that the the downside of those is they really black stuff out.
35:27
So, if you've got them all done, we have overslept or slept way into the day in
35:32
the summertime because we're like, "How's it two?" Because this has been
35:37
dark. I slept so well. It must be 5:00 in the morning. It's still dark, you know. Oh my god. So, I was just in England and
35:43
it gets it gets light at 5:30 in the 5:00 in the morning. It is like noon. Mhm. And I was waking up like, "Oh my god, I
35:50
overslept." And I look at the clock, I'm like, "It's 5:00 in the morning. Are you kidding me?" Like, I could have I really
35:55
could have used some of those blackout shadows. I've been to England this summer and I don't know why they don't have that. We
36:01
were with our friends and like, "Oh, make sure you put the shades on." And they had these little little gossamer
36:06
blinds. They got nothing. But to be clear, I want to I want to clarify your verbiage because you make it sound like shutters.
36:13
They are these um sort of plastic roll blinds that come down that are built into the wall and you pull them down on
36:20
the side with a with a there's a rope on the side that goes around and you pull that and it and it slowly winds them
36:25
down. So it's not shutters that open and close like you're thinking of like wind shutters in like New England or something, you know, that type of thing.
36:32
They're like they're almost like blinds that come that are rolled up at the top. So, it's a whole mechanism that also can
36:37
break. Um, and we've had a few break. Then it's not brain surgery, but um, sometimes they break and then the whole
36:44
thing comes down and and you and it won't go up until you fix it. So, but it is really amazing. And one of the one of
36:50
the things if you live in a house is you can that something that you can do in
36:56
the summer is not open all your windows, close all the blinds, and have a very cool house cuz it's made of concrete,
37:02
right? So, if you don't let the sun in, kind of what you were just talking about, um you can actually maintain
37:09
quite a cool house on a really hot day by making sure that you have everything
37:14
shut down before you get into the day. And it's quite hard to do cuz I love
37:19
having the light and everything. So, it really goes against my feeling of wanting light in the house, but when
37:25
it's cool at midday and it's baking hot outside, it is then at that point you're like, "Okay, that's maybe worth it."
37:31
And these and these shutters for lack of a better word though the way they do have a varying degree right if you can
37:37
you can just about close them and then there's like these little dots through each slat get some light rays of light
37:44
will come through and then also people close them when they close their house down so it's an extra security if
37:49
they're not going to be at the house you put those down um it keeps the house obviously stops the sun from coming into the house and keeps everything secure on
37:56
top of the um bars so I mean they have a lot of purposes But the best is this
38:01
blackout situation for sleeping is amazing. It is amazing. So that is that is what the little um
38:08
the little rope that's on the side of the windows is for just in case you get into it's it's like what is this? What
38:14
does it do? That's what it does. And and sometimes they're electronic. My bedroom one is electronic. The rest of
38:21
them are the Yeah, it's kind of nice. Well, don't be so jealous. It takes forever. So the rope works a lot
38:26
quicker. I can do it from a remote laying in bed. Like, how spoiled are you? Exactly.
38:33
There's not a remote. I have to get up and do a light switch to make it go. Yeah, it's very difficult. I mean, I'm
38:39
going to do a GoFundMe for my for my mental health for this.
38:45
But they are awesome. But yeah, I forgot to mention you can obviously have all this can be automated. You can probably do it on your phone if you have a new
38:52
fancy modern house. I'm sure. Yeah. And and I I would like to also
38:57
mention that like you we talked about the country but living in the city um if you have an apartment with an elevator
39:03
which is is common you know there are a lot without elevators the elevators are very small so they're not going to fit a
39:09
lot of stuff and you'll see a lot of deliveries happening by these electronic
39:15
elevator ladder type things. And so you'll see someone getting a washing machine and you're like, should I be
39:20
walking on the other side of the street where there's like this washing machine and this flimsy ladder being moved up
39:25
electronically and there's the windows are open and there's like three big guys there waiting to get to collect.
39:31
I've seen that movie on the other side. Like those old cartoons with the piano
39:37
hanging over the side and Bugs Bunny gets smooshed by it or something. Apparently you didn't get one of these
39:42
when you moved in your TV or your bed head or something, right? You were telling me that you all had to drag it
39:47
up the stairs on top of it. We drag we were able to fit it up the stairs. When our couch arrived, I was
39:53
they were a little nervous it wasn't going to fit up the staircase and they were like, "We didn't plan. We don't
39:58
have the truck with the ladder on it. We can't move it through your window." Um, to be clear, the the elevator is tiny,
40:05
but the stairs aren't that much bigger, and they're going around in a circle around the elevator. So, you have to be able to make those turns. So, it's not
40:11
like, oh, you got a stairs that will take it. That could also be a problem.
40:17
Exactly. So, just be prepared that things might be delivered through your window. Big ticket items might be coming
40:23
through your window. And it's quite common here. And it doesn't add some weird expense like, you know, I feel
40:28
like in the States, if you had to, you know, deliver something through a window, it would be a,000 bucks. And here, it's just kind of like it's an
40:34
extra like $30 add-on uh to the delivery cost. It's it's
40:39
expected. So, it's not some weird thing that they can gouge you on. Tell me something about the So, you know, living
40:45
in a house where we particularly are, we have it's all light. I mean, it's very
40:51
very bright, but when I walk around the city, and maybe you can tell me from your apartment as well, like when you're
40:57
looking at apartments, the the the roads in Valencia are not that skinny. I mean,
41:02
some of them are, but I mean, you are still blocked from light, actual sunlight, I would assume, in most
41:08
apartments that are maybe on the first floor. Would that be correct? door like how is the light in the apartments?
41:14
So, I would see your if your street side rooms if you're on like the lower two floors. Um, now depending it all depends
41:22
on the building across the street, right? So, if it's only three or four stories, that first floor apartment's going to get a lot of light. Um, in my
41:29
neighborhood, most everything is like seven stories, right? So, if you're in the if you're floor four and above, you
41:36
get light all day in every day. Um, our apartment we is a very bright apartment, but we don't see
41:42
the sky from our front. Now, in the back, it faces the courtyard and it's a ve it's a large block. So, I don't want
41:48
to say courtyard, but the inner the inner of the block, right? So, all the buildings that's very wide. So, the
41:54
backside of our apartment, which is where the bedroom and the family room is, that gets bright bright light all
42:01
day and night. I mean it just you the sun's up it it won't be blaring in because it faces west but you know in
42:07
the afternoon it's blaring in but so you might so this is also the benefit of having these long apartments where you might get a lot of light on one end
42:14
and not the other. So you can get both. You can actually maybe get some light into your apartment. Um
42:20
or and or switch it like if you're facing east west you're getting the morning and then the afternoon north
42:25
south the same way you know you you're getting that kind of thing. Well, I think this this leads us nicely to slide
42:32
into what to look at when you're looking on ID Lista and all these photocasta
42:37
places because you can read it, but really look at the photos and try and
42:43
see what's going on in the photos because they might not have put everything out properly of whether it
42:48
has heating, air conditioning, and stuff like this. And also look out look out the window and see how big the building
42:55
is on the other side if you can. like all those little things, you know, right? I I got really good at Google
43:02
Maps. So, this is a little tips because I got so good at Google Maps that
43:08
because they won't give you addresses for privacy concerns and a lot of times you'll see they have the blinds closed or they're taking the pictures at night
43:13
so you can't figure out or so they may just say what street it's on. So, I've gotten really good with like the Google
43:19
Earth map thing, the satellite vision of like, okay, there's the building like where's it at? Like, oh, I saw a sign.
43:25
So, I'm like googling that restaurant. What street is that restaurant on? If you I saw a sign for the window, you can
43:31
really do some sleuththing there. Yeah, it's a sleuth thingy to find exactly where the apartment is and then
43:37
what floor it is. And then if you go to the street view, like it says it's on the fourth floor. Well, let me see what it looks like from the fourth floor.
43:43
Like from the from the street. You clearly had a lot of time when you were doing this during co.
43:48
Yeah. Yeah, I had a lot of time. I love it. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And also
43:55
the heating and the air conditioning, like it might say it does, but you know, look around the rooms and make sure there's a heater or an air conditioner
44:00
in the window. So often it's not built-in air conditioning in in what you might be used to in America. It's going
44:06
to be like a a wall unit, which by the way are great. Like it it doesn't sound great, but I love it. Like when we had
44:12
an apartment, we had a window unit in each room that we that we had. And therefore, you window unit or the split
44:18
the split thing like the window not the I'm sorry. Yeah, not the window unit. It's like it's above the window and it's
44:23
a it's a heater air conditioner and then it's like on the outside it has the pump and everything and then you're getting
44:30
heating and air conditioning from this one unit. It doesn't look like it doesn't look as nice as having a a
44:36
central unit. But I will say you can air condition the room you're sitting in. You can heat the room you're sitting in.
44:41
And I love that as far as like management of your costs and also just like why am I heating a whole apartment
44:48
or a whole house? It's like it's not necessary. And when it comes to a house, I mean,
44:55
we don't have heating or air conditioning cuz our house was built in the 80s and it's not fully renovated. So, we don't have either.
45:00
And it was a vacation home, too. It was a vacation home, too. Yes. It was a summer home. But we if we wanted to
45:06
heat this house or air condition this house, if we wanted to put that in, our bill would be thousands a month to do
45:11
that, right? And really we've managed is you know to heat with the with the electric
45:17
space heaters and we have fans and open windows and it does the job completely you know and we don't have those
45:22
expenses and in an apartment I think you know it was really nice to just not be
45:28
heating and air conditioning bedrooms that we weren't in you know so I loved it. Oh, no. I have central I
45:34
have central air in our house and it does like we don't often use the family room and that room's getting a lot of
45:40
air conditioning because it's also the hottest room in the house because it faces the western window and so yes, I I
45:47
do get annoyed, but I have figured out the the timer on our on our air conditioner. So now it goes on and off
45:53
four times in the day. Oh, there you go. Just to give you a little squirt of like this is what it feels like to be cool. Okay, now get
45:59
hot. Yes, please. But I will say even like when we lived in DC, we had obviously the the well the
46:07
the whole air conditioning heating central system and I will say we only had one thermostat. I mean it was for
46:12
the whole house, right? So it is my dream at some point if I I don't think if I have a house this big, you want
46:18
multiple thermostats and systems going so that you can manage it better because when everything's on one thermostat,
46:25
it's it's never right really. our our neighbors upstairs, they their
46:31
apartment was renovated um more recently than ours and they have three zones. That's what you want.
46:37
And I'm very jealous of that. Yeah, cuz when they can just keep their bedrooms at night and the rest of it is or
46:43
they'll keep it the rest at like 76 and the bedroom's at 72 at night and then flip it during the day. I was like, "Oh,
46:50
just rub my face." That is that is super fancy. That is super fancy and super custom. You are
46:55
not gonna like rent an apartment that has that I don't think. Um then and I have I that's the only person I know
47:01
that even has that like in a house I think. No, it was new to me and I'm very jealous. That's incredibly that's incredibly
47:08
nice. Yeah. I mean that is a dream. That is absolutely a dream and that is what you'd want to do. I think um but yeah, I
47:14
think the definitely take a look at when you're when you're looking at apartments and stuff and just just look at the pictures properly and make sure that
47:20
they have the things you need. the descriptions are often wrong when it comes to the heating and air
47:25
conditioning. And make sure you look when you say, "Oh, third floor." Make sure it says with lift because unless
47:31
you want the exercise, some people do. Unless you want the exercise. Um, our elevator was out for a month and um it's
47:38
not fun planning groceries cuz I went to the groceries like three times a day because you can't lug up huge bottles of
47:44
water or tons of grocer. You can't lug up your little cart. So, I'm like, I've got two hands and two bags. That's all that
47:50
is. This what kids are for? I don't understand. You have two little kids. They're in school all day. I'm You know,
47:57
if you get Do people get groceries people get groceries delivered? Because I wonder if they would drag it all up to
48:04
your apartment for you or whether they leave it at the bottom, you know? I don't know. I mean, there are there are grocery I mean, the
48:11
Mercodana I know has their own delivery on the app. I would assume they're walking it up the stairs. I mean, what
48:17
what's you know, if you're would have to, right? An older person, you can't be going down. Yeah. The only person I know that does this is
48:23
my mom in England, and obviously they're very nice to her, and they bring it right into the kitchen. And if she if
48:29
she wanted, I'm sure they would also put it in the fridge for her. But, I mean, I don't I don't know anybody here that gets their groceries delivered. I just
48:35
know they do it. So, maybe that's an option if you're somebody that that happens to you and you don't have the
48:40
physical ability, you could maybe do that. Um, and I will say side note on since we're
48:46
on the grocery delivery I haven't done yet because I looked I'm used to like the Instacart in America where you order
48:51
your groceries and they're coming in an hour and here it's 3 days. So you're
48:56
like doing a grocery order and I was like well I don't want to wait 3 days. I'll I'll be to the store in 3 days. So
49:02
I haven't done it but I thought about it like maybe I should get like five boxes of like cat litter and like tons of the
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soda water that we drink. Maybe I should get these big items done and that I don't have to make those choices. But I will say like I've talked to Jad
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about this cuz I was like I think there's a point where we should he's very organized with shopping and he does
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most of the shopping but if I go shopping I'm very like I want to buy little things that I see and I'm like I
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think we would benefit from just getting it delivered because then we just shop online. We get the delivery once a week
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and you're done. You know, when I was doing the Instacart during the COVID and all those things and I got
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hooked on to it, my grocery bills did go down a lot because I wasn't impulse buying. I wasn't walking down and I
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wasn't seeing the things that were on sale that I didn't necessarily want. Like, so I think there's a benefit to that. So, we Yeah, I was like, I think I want
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to do it. And then, um, the I think the maybe the last thing to talk about since we're talking about house kind of
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related is the pool. Um, we did have our pool renovated. So, um I think you know
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it there are obviously there's companies that do that. We had one it was very efficient. Um we had the option it
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seemed to be there's like basic options if you need to renovate a pool um where you can get it tiled which I think is
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probably the most expensive um way to go. You can have the um they have like a
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prefab sort of shaped um I don't know like fiberglass pools that are kind of
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pre-done and they just bring it in and plop it in and then they finish it. And then we went with like the vinyl that
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kind of looks like tile but they have a lot of different vinyl patterns. So ours from far away looks like the little tiny blue tiles but when you get close it's
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just the the vinyl and it's really cool. I love it. So, a question I have for you
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with the pools is, so I've lived in several places in the States and so like in we lived in Nevada, you're you're
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getting concrete pools. When we lived in New Jersey, you were only getting liner pools with like a metal side because the
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ground was so mushy that concrete would crack and and the freezing and all that stuff. And in California, um, you get
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you get more like the concrete pools and stuff. Now your pool, you have the vinyl, but what's it covering? Is it
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straight to dirt or is it inside? Actually, um, they did, so ours was
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already a hole, which so we saved a lot of money with the fact that the hole was already there. I think it's quite I
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think you need planning and all these things to to dig a hole and and all that stuff. But ours was kind of already
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there, but it had tile that was all broken. So they took out the tile that was broken. They put in all the new
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pipes and everything and then they concreted the whole thing. But on the bottom there is like is it called rebar?
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Like the like the um the is it rebar? Like the strips of like the mesh of
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metal the rods. So it had the rebar on the bottom and then on and then it has and then
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they sort of poured concrete all over that to fill it. So it's completely concreted. They put in new steps and
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things cuz we wanted proper steps versus the metal ones that went in. So they built steps also out of concrete. So
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that so they made these sort of nice round steps all made out of concrete and those were like um the breeze blocks and
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then they rounded it off with concrete and made everything perfect and smooth and beautiful with the concrete and then
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and then they put the the vinyl on top of that. So yeah, so it's very obviously it's
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very very very secure. Yeah. But I was impressed looking at the process cuz I had no idea how a pool was
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made. So, I'm just like I mean they're probably like why does she keep like looking at us and I'm like because it's
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so fascinating. And then with the vinyl you can pick
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like I mean obviously with with tile too you can pick all sorts of designs and things. So I mean there's lots you can
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do visually, right? Um but yeah, it was it was kind of fun to watch actually. So yeah, that's the
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the pool part and obviously having a pool in, you know, as part of your house is a is a nice perk when you live out of
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the city. Um, but it is another thing to to maintain, you know, with the all the
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mechanics and cleaning and and all that's another thing to clean. So, but they do have like everything you would
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have in this in any other country. I think they have the little robots you can put in to clean the pool. And so, or you can just get a pool boy.
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And if you're inclined, I'm sure there's a pool service. Yeah, I was just going to say I'm sure if you're there's pool boys.
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Yes, for sure. And all of that as well. But and gardeners if you don't want to mow
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your lawn. I'm sure they have gardeners here. Absolutely. You can get anything you need to help to make your life easier.
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Absolutely. Um I think I think that's it. I don't have anything I think that's it. I don't know what
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else is to discuss, but if you have any other questions specific about um what
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you want to know, what it's what the housing situation is like, what things you want to get used to. Um we'll be
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happy. Stick it in the comments. Yeah, we can maybe there if we get enough there might be a whole new
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episode going after this. All the things we forgot in the first episode.
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It wouldn't be unheard of. Let's just say. Well, adios, Tanya.
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